Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethan Hunt (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ethan Hunt

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He is a notable character, but that doesn't stop him from being notable. Of all the sources, none are reliable, they are either passing mentions, film reviews, or interviews and don't really talk about the character itself. Luther Stickell suffers the same thing, see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Luther Stickell. The first nomination was closed a keep, and years later, it isn't fixed. If it's still like this, i would recommend a redirect to either List of Mission: Impossible characters or Tom Cruise. Toby2023 (talk) 03:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toby2023He is a notable character, but that doesn't stop him from being notable. Can you clarify? As for reliability of the sources, have another look please; at least two substantial sources seem perfectly acceptable. Coverage about the character in books and reviews can be considered enough. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also inviting other users to read the 1st AfD. It was a clear Keep decision and generally notability does not disappear with time. What you mention seems to be mere cleanup issues and AfDs are not for cleanup. Feel free to add the sources identified in the first debate to the page if you think the state of the article is an issue.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP or DRAFT, Need more relevant sourcing im sure its there UzbukUdash (talk) 05:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Film, and United States of America. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep lack of a valid nominator rationale and sourcing was established in the last AfD. Wikipedia:AFDISNOTCLEANUP, so I don't see how article quality effects subject notability. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Any AfD nomination that fails to find a prior nomination and engage with the sources brought up in that discussion is not sufficient to start a legitimate discussion. We could speedy keep on that basis, or keep because notability was established previously and ask the nominator to go incorporate those sources into the article. Jclemens (talk) 15:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per nom? The nomination seems like textbook WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the article needs clean-up. But there is no doubt that there are sources, and the coverage in them is significant. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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