Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Financial Therapy

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was userfy to User:Thinkyourmoney/Financial Therapy. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Financial Therapy

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This is not an encyclopedia article, it's more like a how-to. The name of the original creator is problematic, as well. Woogee (talk) 23:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The name of the article in the first place is so general, it's a term which could pratically mean anything. Also the creator, see here, seems to sell a product by building some notability on his concept of a Financial Therapy. Of course google will generate a lot of link, it's like creating an article on Red Cars and deciding that it means cars which are fast. -RobertMel (talk) 00:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
please keep the article

We are the creator of the wiki entry for Financial Therapy. I understand that the name of the creator might be construed as a problem and that could be resolved by taking down this entry and putting it up using a more non-descript user name. If there is a way of changing the user name on this article without taking it down that would be preferable. I think this issue is about how to get the job done. Similarly I think the content issue is a matter of how to get the job done. If anything, one of us thought the content was too analytical. Is there a particular section such as the Framework for Financial Therapy where you thought it became too much of a how to? We could make amendments. We tried to stay away from “how to” as Financial Therapy is a virtually vacant niche. Specifically the Canadian Task Force on Financial Literacy is looking for a working framework as there is no such thing as a functional “Financial Therapy” or a “Financial Literacy” program. If anything our entry was entered as an opportunity for others to add to, amend and modify the understanding of what financial therapy is and should be. This topic is of high interest in this society and it should be addressed in Wiki. April is Financial Literacy Month in America. I think deletion would be overkill and unnecessary considering how easily the entry can be amended. Thinkyourmoney (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC) — Thinkyourmoney (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Response You did put a lot of work into this article, and I hope you kept a copy. If the article is eventually deleted, for the reasons given here, parts of it could be inserted into the existing article on Financial literacy - a term which seems to be interchangeable with Financial Therapy. Even you are using the two terms as if they were synonyms, which is part of my problem with the article; the information should be kept under the better-known term IMO. Thanks for your contributions and I hope you will continue to contribute here regardless of the outcome of this discussion. --MelanieN (talk) 14:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On the fence - due to two observations:
1. There should be an article on Financial Therapy on Wikipedia. It is a notable expression, relevant, and well documented.
2. It should in no way look like the current article which I would tag at least as {{Article issues|or|coi|refimprove|peacock|advert|synthesis|weasel|howto|introrewrite|inappropriate person}} --Pgallert (talk) 10:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I suspect that "financial therapy" is probably just a non-notable neologism and an entirely trivial formation in any case. This text, with its Look At Me Capitals, is an essay, not an encyclopedia article. It would need to be redone from scratch even if the underlying notion were not trivial: As Personal finances have been a taboo topic until now, all that can be put forward to define Financial Therapy is a “fill in” framework to address the need that the concept identifies. "This vocabulary void exhausts our energy. Witness all the jabber over “life planning,” “financial planning done right,” “financial life planning,” “interior finance,” “financial therapy” and “financial coaching.” These ideas all stand as proxies for different approaches to our personal relationships with money, yet none actually communicates succinctly or effectively." And, as noted above, it seems to be promoting a consultancy or "life coach" business. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article reads like an essay with a big helping of how-to - both Wikipedia no-nos. In addition, the term "financial therapy" seems to be a neologism which is finding a little bit of use (there is even a Journal of Financial Therapy). But even the sources that use the term seem to list it as a subset of "financial planning" or "financial literacy" - both of which already have Wikipedia pages. I did find one use of the term by the Wall Street Journal but they seemed to be using it in a cutesy way. Overall I don't feel the term has reached the mainstream. --MelanieN (talk) 19:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. If the article is kept the capitalization should be changed to "Financial therapy" - no capital T. --MelanieN (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, or have the article moved to user space for further work. Nuujinn (talk) 18:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.