Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank (website) (2nd nomination)

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The result was redirect to Mike Lindell#Frank. Sandstein 11:31, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Frank (website)

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Web site is a personal project of Mike Lindell without journalistic or social networking features as promised; merge with Lindell's article White 720 (talk) 18:31, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Previous AfD nomination: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank (social network). The page has since been retitled because none of the social networking features advertised have launched after two attempted launch events (on April 19 and May 10). The site is a de facto personal website of Lindell and his close associates, not a social network site or news site with many contributors. I, as the original creator of the page, don't think Frank is notable on its own. White 720 (talk) 18:34, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:41, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:48, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

*Merge or Keep, for now Merge with Mike Lindell or Keep, for the moment. Frank does seem to be headed towards the footnotes of history, having contributed very little to the "debate" over the 2020 US Presidential Election, but I think completely loosing the material would be premature. Rklahn (talk) 14:45, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Ive changed my mind. After reviewing Mike Lindell, it covers the topic of Frank in more than enough detail. Rklahn (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A Preliminary Keep and reassessment within a year-vote from my side, given that this has got lots of (initial!) media attention we might wait for a while longer. Whenever it makes another big media splash (probably by failing in some way), Wikipedia should be prepared better than with a redirect to the biography of Lindell. --Enyavar (talk) 08:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is another Frank rally planned on June 12, but it is unclear what (if any) announcements will be made about the launch of social features. Absent any of those, Frank would remain a (very expensive) personal web site for Lindell and his inner social circle. White 720 (talk) 16:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mike Lindell - nothing substantial has been added since the last nomination, suggesting it was a brief blip in the news. It remains the case that most all of the sources are primarily about Lindell himself, not about the website on its own, meaning that per WP:WEB standards it is non-notable as notability cannot be inherited. The only thing that's changed is that it's more clear now that it's just Lindell's personal website at this point: a place where he posts his "Lindell TV" podcasts and re-posts political commentary from other websites. The biggest notability obstacle remains that Frank as a topic is inseparable from Mike Lindell the person (much unlike other alt-tech websites like Gab and Parler which are notable on their own merits, not because their founders have name recognition), and unless/until this changes, it should be covered at Mike Lindell. Vanilla Wizard 💙 20:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I should add that I think Frank (website) should be redirected, but the less-accurate Frank (social network) (a redirect to this article) should probably be deleted; redirects may be cheap, but there is no such thing as Frank the social network, and if this closes as a consensus to redirect then it'd become a double redirect. This would probably have to be decided in a separate discussion at MfD, though. Vanilla Wizard 💙 20:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:10, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This social media site has proven to be a flash in the pan, not a major event.TH1980 (talk) 01:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Mike Lindell - insufficiently notable for a discrete article. It seems that most coverage is not about the website, but about Lindell himself. As such it fails WP:INHERITWEB and the GNG. firefly ( t · c ) 10:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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