Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Scaglione

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The result was speedy delete. 05:18, 10 September 2011 Fastily (talk | contribs | block) deleted "Frank Scaglione" ‎ (G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Scaglione

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A 19 year-old who is on his way to create a business empire. Has a web advertising company and is a weather presenter on a TV station. Unfortunately, that does not make one notable. Only able to find two reliable references and they are in the article. Prod was contested. Bgwhite (talk) 22:06, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Bgwhite (talk) 22:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Ambitious and talented to be sure, but not yet notable. Pburka (talk) 22:38, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Much though I'm not sold on the subject's notability, there are multiple reliable references which discuss him in significant detail. That satisfies the GNG, whether or not we think the kid's important. ῲ Ravenswing ῴ 08:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 13:36, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

query — Ravenswing, would you mind linking to some of the refs you've found if you have the time? there are so many hits on google news which are clearly not this guy that i'm having trouble isolating the ones which are. i'm not taking a position on this article at all, but would like to see more evidence than is found in the actual article is all. — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 18:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: I'm somewhat surprised. Looking at just the first screen for advanced archival search by date for "Frank Scaglione," [1] you see articles from the Des Moines Register and the Omaha World-Herald which satisfy the GNG. ῲ Ravenswing ῴ 21:46, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

thanks — evidently i'm just dazed. — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 21:49, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

keep — really, i did want to think that this should be deleted, but there are at least three solid sources discussing the dude. the article is in terrible shape, though, and is gag-inducing promotionalism. that, however, is not the question at hand. — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 21:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not sure two articles from community sites in which he is from is independent or verify as multiple. Patch is a web site only for a town of 11,000. Dallas County news has a subscription base of 1,700 and publishes weekly. One of the articles is reprinted in the Omaha World Herald (paper covers parts of Iowa). In sports notability, usually hometown or college papers are not counted towards GNG, but can be used for referencing facts. I had 4 articles about me in my hometown (pop 4,000) paper while growing up and I'm not anywhere near in notable. Bgwhite (talk) 23:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: Two reliable sources has long been held as multiple in every pertinent AfD. The particular articles to which I referred came from the Des Moines Register and the Omaha World-Herald, as I stated above - both daily newspapers with circulation over 100,000, the largest newspapers in their respective states, and winners of multiple Pulitzer Prizes; inferring that they do not constitute reliable sources is well to the left of farcical. ῲ Ravenswing ῴ 00:18, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no claim of notability. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Undoubtedly an ambitious and impressive young person, but non-notable. There are thousands and thousands of people similar to Mr. Scaglione. Neutrality^talk 20:12, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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