Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Furkan Özsan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Nobody actually expresses a "keep" opinion here, so... Sandstein 19:08, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Furkan Özsan

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSINGER. The article has been deleted twice on Turkish Wikipedia, the last of which was through an XfD in April 2022. Keivan.f^Talk 01:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Turkey. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 06:43, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I support deleting the article given Turkish Wikipedia notability guidelines are similar to those on the English Wikipedia and the article has previously been deleted. I also note a preliminary search does not indicate significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Happy to change my submission if further sources are provided, however if Turkish Wikipedians did not have any luck, then I think it is unlikely we will here. MaxnaCarta (talk) 08:44, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Two of their songs pass WP:NSONG. Their 2019 song Yağmurlar which happens to have 40M views on YouTube reached #77 the Radio Charts on 29 September 2019 as well as #62 on YouTube and #85 on iTunes on other dates. Their 2018 song Müsaadenle placed #99 on the radio chart. I also found that their song Yağmurlar was one of 5 songs nominated for duet of the year in the 2020 Golden Palm Awards which does not match with the information in the article. But this is relevant in regards to WP:NSINGER criteria #8.--Treehorn 1991 (talk) 22:47, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but placing #77 in a chart alone is not a NSONG pass, not at all. Golden Palm Awards isn't major either: it doesn't even have an article on trwiki. The source you mentioned isn't considered to be reliable. I doubt this passes NSINGER #8. ~Styyx^Talk? 12:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed placing high on national music charts is not the end of the discussion, but I think a conversation can be had given that the song has placed on several charts, has a significantly popular music video (40M views is significant) the polularity of which was noted by a major national newspaper, and has been nominated for an award. This makes a strong case for that song being notable.--Treehorn 1991 (talk) 12:23, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:44, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One more try...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 13:01, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.