Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gothos
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn with no outstanding delete votes. Protonk (talk) 23:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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No reliable references, does not assert it's notability. Not every "sleepy village" deserves an article on wiki. Redtigerxyz Talk 12:59, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. —Redtigerxyz Talk 13:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- With the references, i see no need to continue this AfD and ask for a Keep and Speedy close.--Redtigerxyz Talk 14:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - unreferenced. The very specific Google search "Gothos -"star trek" "indian village"" doesn't seem to yield anything approach a reliable source.--EEMIV (talk) 13:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No opinion - I don't know the geography project's more specific criteria for notability, but the references and cleaned up writing and formatting at least slap away my delete !vote. --EEMIV (talk) 22:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep: Has the nominator taken some efforts to find a Wikipedia policy on Geographic locations? I am sure he (since username contains tiger and not tigress) has not done so and hence nominated the article for AfD with words "Sleepy Village". I would ask the nominator to specifically read WP:NGL Option III. --GPPande talk! 19:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you read the article? Those words were lifted directly from the article itself. No bad faith here. - Mgm|(talk) 19:13, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes I did. Let me explain - in local Marathi language a village whose population does not grow even though neighboring villages are growing is called zhoplela gaon means sleepy. Now the article is surely written in poor format (back in 2004) and so the person mostly had translated some words as it is from Marathi language. Article has not improved since then just as the actual village. I do not see this derogatory. It is a phrase used in local language and so has been translated. Now, making the use of same in perfect sense English while nominating AfD is something sarcastic which AfD rules prohibit and derogatory. Read the Wikiquette section on AfD page. The village has a history behind it, the article has been on Wikipedia for 4 years, it is a village and not just another geographical location, has fort associated with it. I think putting this article on AfD was a result of not knowing WP policy(proposed). --GPPande talk! 19:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- More likely it was nominated for deletion because, as the nom. says, it is unsourced and there are no readily apparent sources. If you can substantiate claims about this village's importance and how it aligns with the geography notability requirements, please do so before the AfD ends. I'm willing to change my !vote, but not based on anything on this page or in the article (yet). --EEMIV (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, for the WP:RS part as per nomination, I have just now added 3 sources proving the existence of the village, that its administration is under village panchayat and that Sabnis are mentioned in Gazetteer. These are Government of India and Government of Maharashtra sources and so extremely reliable. I would check some more sources if possible. --GPPande talk! 20:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please review now - I have added few more sources from other Government of India websites like Census which says it has a population of 1500+ people. These are WP:RS --GPPande talk! 21:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- More likely it was nominated for deletion because, as the nom. says, it is unsourced and there are no readily apparent sources. If you can substantiate claims about this village's importance and how it aligns with the geography notability requirements, please do so before the AfD ends. I'm willing to change my !vote, but not based on anything on this page or in the article (yet). --EEMIV (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes I did. Let me explain - in local Marathi language a village whose population does not grow even though neighboring villages are growing is called zhoplela gaon means sleepy. Now the article is surely written in poor format (back in 2004) and so the person mostly had translated some words as it is from Marathi language. Article has not improved since then just as the actual village. I do not see this derogatory. It is a phrase used in local language and so has been translated. Now, making the use of same in perfect sense English while nominating AfD is something sarcastic which AfD rules prohibit and derogatory. Read the Wikiquette section on AfD page. The village has a history behind it, the article has been on Wikipedia for 4 years, it is a village and not just another geographical location, has fort associated with it. I think putting this article on AfD was a result of not knowing WP policy(proposed). --GPPande talk! 19:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you read the article? Those words were lifted directly from the article itself. No bad faith here. - Mgm|(talk) 19:13, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Someone overwrote the original star wars entry with this. Both entries should be evaluated on their own merit and split if needed. - Mgm|(talk) 19:13, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Towns and villages are inherently notable regardless of size. US towns of this size are never even brought up for AfD and there's no reason why similar Indian towns should be. The refs added by gppande confirming article content was very helpful.--Oakshade (talk) 22:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per GPPande. Villages with a panchayat do not need to assert notability. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Close as nominator is now requesting closure, after revisions. 23skidoo (talk) 17:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.