Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hacia Adentro

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I took my time to read the coverage presented by Astig and it all helps the article qualify for GNG and WP:NALBUM. It's all coverage related to their new album, and I'm sure there is more out there if folks do their due diligence in Spanish-language resources.

Thanks everyone for participating. Unhappy with this decision? If one wishes to renominate this article with another policy-based rationale, they are able to do so. I will defer to other administrators to review it. I will not re-review my decision. Happy holidays. Missvain (talk) 16:48, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hacia Adentro

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No indication of notability to meet WP:NALBUM. Htanaungg (talk) 08:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Htanaungg (talk) 08:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. Htanaungg (talk) 08:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Ten years ago this band were huge multi-platinum selling stars in Mexico, and I'm amazed at how quickly they seem to have fallen into obscurity. I can't even find any evidence that this album sold well in Mexico, let alone in other countries, and the two good sources in the article are promotional interviews by the duo. I wouldn't write this off completely, given their history, but unless I can find some better sources, a redirect to the band's article would be the best option. Richard3120 (talk) 20:42, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This album didn't get enough airplay on the Mexican AC Radio Stations, additionally zero plays for the Spanish AC and CHR stations in the USA. The Reggaeton/Latin Trap takeover are one of the main causes that brought Latin pop hits down the charts in the last few years. And to this day it continues to decline in mainstream popularity. A few artists and bands in Mexico are trying to adapt to the new generation. Take Reik and Julieta Venegas for example. But although the album was successful in Spain and got a fair amount of airplay on Cadena Dial such as "Hacia Adentro" and "Sobreviviendo." Salv007 (talk) 20:42, 30 November 2021 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Salv007 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
- But we need some proof that the album was "successful", as you say. Yes, Latin pop has disappeared in the same way that pop in the USA and Europe has been overtaken by R&B and hip hop... in Colombia where I live, stars such as Shakira and Carlos Vives now collaborate with reggaeton stars in order to remain relevant. Richard3120 (talk) 18:24, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:41, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The sources in the article (except the one from Sony Music, which is primary) seem reliable. I found some more reliable sources which talk about the album: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] and [6]. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:NALBUM. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 15:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- One of them is a concert review, the others are all promotional interviews by the band to publicize the album's release. None of them are actually about the album. Richard3120 (talk) 15:53, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Camila discography. I still don't see anything that talks about this album in any detail, and it doesn't appear to have charted anywhere. Richard3120 (talk) 15:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:NALBUM with sources presented by Astig. They're reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 00:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- But they aren't independent, and don't tell you a single thing about the album apart from what the band themselves think of it. Richard3120 (talk) 20:24, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Who cares what you think? They're definitely reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 01:07, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - Errrr... the whole point of an AfD is for other editors to give their opinions? And I'm not questioning that the sources are reliable ones... I'm saying they're not independent, because these are WP:PRIMARY interviews with the band, promoting their own album. Richard3120 (talk) 18:13, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 07:49, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.