Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hetek

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Faith Church, Hungary. I'm going with the vote from the only established user Spartaz ^Humbug! 05:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hetek

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Hetek is only one Hungarian congregation periodical. Even in Hungary it is not famous. Kerdezo (talk) 21:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are some 8 references to it in WP articles. It is much more known than the other congregational weeklies. Keep. Nedudgi (talk) 11:53, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Famous" is not our standard for inclusion, and the fact that other congregational periodicals exist is irrelevent to whether we should delete this article. Could we please have a deletion rationale based on our policies and guidelines? Phil Bridger (talk) 20:20, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think very few Hungarian weeklies should have enwiki article. And Hetek is definitelly not among them, because non of any religious should. But let's see other opinions. --Kerdezo (talk) 07:07, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I agree with Kerdezo. We should not have article about local religious weeklies. Euty (talk) 09:17, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Although I am Hungarian, I agree with that Hetek should not need English article. --Tomoceusztakatiti (talk) 12:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser note: Euty and Tomoceusztakatiti are Confirmed by checkuser evidence as being the same user. AGK [•] 23:31, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Faith Church, Hungary. I have the impression that it might actually be notable, but I can't find any supersources to support that. There's is this paper [1] that focuses on the subject. Some of the content is referenced to Wikipedia, but the other reference is (copy-paste) "Szobota István (2006) A márka- és imázsépítés lehetőségei a magyar lappiacon – A Hetek, pp 1-56", perhaps someone who speaks Hungarian could provide more details on it. Other than that, there are some passing mentions [2] [3] [4] [5] [6], but that's all — frankie (talk) 16:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I still beleive. On the other hand FC is a long story. One can merge, if you like. Anyway, thanks for this thesis. Especially, for Section 3.3 ("... how SN can manipulate or invoke religious sensation.") Kerdezo (talk) 17:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I find somewhat strange that the opinion of Kerdezo expplicitly contradicts the Hungarian Wiki page on Hetek, which claims that it is a knowledgable, important publication, in the leage HVG, Heti Válasz, 168 Óra, Magyar Narancs, and Élet és Irodalom, all widely read serious weeklies. Why did he not change the Hungarian article? Nedudgi (talk) 11:16, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Patience, My Dear, patience. I certainly will. Now I only have put a couple of source needed sings there. The problem is, if one delete every sentence which has no independent source, there remains nothing. And I am not such a fun for deletion. I can pateintly wait some weeks. However as you suggest, I will certainly delete everything which would not have source. Kerdezo (talk) 14:18, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:49, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please, read my note about the only opponent. Euty (talk) 11:38, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Euty. It is important to know that Nedudgi is a Hungarian sock puppet soldier. Kerdezo (talk) 07:47, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.