Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Him Too movement

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The result was keep. Tone 20:23, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Him Too movement

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Hashtag which lasted less than 24 hours. All coverage is from Oct 9 and Oct 10, so WP:NOTNEWS. The hashtag didn't appear in multiple iterations because there's a conspiracy to promote the hashtag in the contexts of Kaine, Obama, Kavanaugh etc., but because it's a very simple English phrase. I would like to see an article about pro- and anti-Kavanaugh rallies, though. Sidenote: this hashtag is innately flawed as it assumes that men talk to someone about being falsely accused. wumbolo ^^^ 21:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:56, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:57, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:57, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don't believe WP:BEFORE was consulted by the nominator. I've added a section on this hasthag/movement at Me Too movement##HimToo and posted a note to Talk:Me_Too_movement#HimToo. A simple merge proposal or discussion could have staved off an AfD, at least temporarily. The assertions "lasted less than 24 hours" and "All coverage is from Oct 9 and Oct 10" are fake news. A Google news search set to look before October 2018 finds many articles, some listed below. Remember that Wikipedia is not reality, and the current condition of any article or references therein is not grounds for deletion. While this hashtag has had multiple iterations over the years, as discussed in at least three reliable sources, it could very plausibly be merged and discussed in Me Too movement, similar to how Alt-left redirects to Alt-right, despite being essentially opposite. Similarly, if the level of coverage becomes significant, it might warrant a stand-alone article, similar to AllLivesMatter as a counter to BlackLivesMatter. While this new article is imperfect and the scope unclear (the hashtag has received more coverage than any "movement"), I think judicious editing and merging are better alternatives to deletion.

Note that the first three references below directly discuss the hashtag HimToo, while other sources (listed here and not) use it in headlines or in passing without expounding on the hashtag itself. --Animalparty! (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ellis, Emma Grey (September 27, 2018). "How #HimToo Became the Tagline of the Men's Rights Movement". WIRED.
North, Anna (October 10, 2018). "#HimToo, the online movement spreading myths about false rape allegations, explained". Vox.
Morris, Amanda (October 11, 2018). "#HimToo: Left And Right Embrace Opposing Takes On Same Hashtag". NPR.org.
"#HimToo name-calling for abuse splits academia". The Times of India. October 26, 2017.
Borpujari, Priyanka (November 6, 2017). "#MeToo and #HimToo Come to India". The Diplomat.
"Katy Perry's flirting on 'American Idol', PG-rated jest or #HimToo". Washington Post. March 20, 2018.
O'Connell, Jennifer (August 25, 2018). "#HimToo: What happens if the aggressor is a woman?". The Irish Times.

Keep Passes WP:GNG. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 16:47, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Passes WP:GNG. Good refs.BabbaQ (talk) 16:44, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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