Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ingrid Zameter

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:15, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ingrid Zameter

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Allegedly a 1970s luger; the article history shows some dispute about whether she was Austrian or Italian. The only cited source is a dead link (http://www.eiskanal.com/eiskanal-erg-nt-wch.html), and I haven't found any other reliable source to verify that she actually existed. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:29, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 00:27, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 00:27, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I added an archived link. The page shows she won silver in 1979; she's listed with an Austrian flag, but the gold went to Delia Vaudan, an Italian. Cheers! Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 06:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but this source shows her nationality as Italian. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 07:24, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alas, that 2nd source is actually based on FIL World Luge Natural Track Championships 1979. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 07:39, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Grand'mere Eugene: when I tried searching, I found zillions of wikipedia-derived pages.

Thanks for the archived link ... but how does the defunct eiskanal.com measure up against WP:RS? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:02, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that Eiscanal was a short-lived publishing effort of Treffpunkt-Media GmbH, to provide "Comprehensive statistics" on bobsleigh, luge and skeleton as well as information on tracks and technology, according to Google translation. Seems a bit fly-by-night to me, but I don't know German and cannot evaluate the media group page. If we agree it's less than reliable, it may be a cleanup situation on multiple other WP luge and bobsled articles that cite the eiscanal reference. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 16:49, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First comment withdrawn.

@Chris: the data I got from Zameter was from FIL? The source you cited[1] was http://www.eiskanal.com/eiskanal-erg-nt-wch.html, not FIL. Why do you say it was accurate then? Did you have other sources to verify it? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:34, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake on this. The only source I saw is eiskanal as you have mentioned. I have also requested FIL to put the Natural Track Championships in for records since all they have is on artificial track. Am awaiting response on this. I have withdrawn my first comment. Chris (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the fact that we can't even nail down the nationality with any certainty would indicate that this person does not meet the WP:GNG. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 03:09, 11 March 2018 (UTC).[reply]

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