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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure)Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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No indication of notability, borderline A7 speedy deletion candidate. No independent coverage, content not verifiable, somewhat spammy. Nothing helpful found via Google. While many notable artists played at the festival, notability is not inherited. Huon (talk) 22:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is for verification. It is not a serious attitude trying to delete the article of a decades old, very known and sufficiently notable international festival. This is why I am not going to write anything else for now; will wait for others. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 22:37, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep but Strong Clean Up Doing a google search sees reference to this festival event in a number of sites, for example here or here or here just from the first page or two of links. So it's likely the festival exists and even has some attention in Turkey. The problem of course is that this article is TERRIBLE and needs to be seriously cleaned up (e.g. the format for the inline citations should be brought into line with wikipedia's standards). It would also be wise to add links to english language secondary sources (if any) to avoid any confusion in the future. For all I know the four inline citations are to very significant coverage, but sadly I do not personally know the Turkish language. -Markeer 00:40, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. — Ascii002Talk Contribs GuestBook 01:02, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. — Ascii002Talk Contribs GuestBook 01:02, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:41, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
For your information, Markeer all four citations are in English. (Maybe you were confused with the surrounding texts due to the use of Google.tr. :-) They are the ones I found in the first 5 minutes of the AfD. The festival is more known and international than you imagine. I know personally the case of a Central European classical ensemble that is waiting for being included to the festival for many years. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 04:08, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, founded in 1973, member of EFA, seems clearly notable, - improve article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There are enough independent sources to justify this. Some of them are in Turkish, but if we let that affect us, we get systemic bias at a stroke. The sources are there and accessible. Yes, puffy language like "World famous violinist, director and musicologist Fabio Biondi brought this lengthy opera to a powerful two and a half hour performance" needs to be dealt with, but the notability is obvious. --Stfg (talk) 15:02, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It exists, and is fairly well known in a local context. Article is very badly written, but that is not a reason to delete. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 19:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.