Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Simmons (baseball player)

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The result was delete. --Core desat 05:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

James Simmons (baseball player)

Also nominated:

Beau Mills (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Aaron Poreda (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Devin Mesoraco (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Ross Detwiler (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Subjects are baseball players who have failed to achieve sufficient notability. Per precedent, ballplayers are not considered notable until they have reached the Major Leagues. Caknuck 02:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Does not pass WP:BIO or consensus that baseball players must have played in the major leagues to be considered notable. --Charlene 02:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletions. Caknuck 02:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Delete per nom as well as per the precedent recently set with deletions of minor-leagues or those who have not yet signed contracts.Montco 02:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all of them except Aaron Poreda, who was a finalist for the Roger Clemens Award. Capmango 04:59, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as they have all just reached the Major Leagues, or at least wait until they sign or don't sign; you wouldn't delete the article of a recently elected congressman just because he hadn't voted on anything yet. IMHO, simply going that high in the MLB draft should be a firm basis for notability, especially with Ross. Per WP:N, "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Such coverage exists, especially given their draft numbers. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 08:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Being drafted doesn't mean you've reached the major leagues. The consensus at WP:BASEBALL has been that you need to play in a major league game (like Moonlight Graham) in order to be notable. Most of these players are playing rookie league ball right now, and will need to go thru A, AA, and AAA before they reach the majors (which most of them never will). Personally, I think playing in AAA should be enough, but in order to be consistent, playing in a major league game is the only automatic in. There are ways that a minor leaguer can become notable (e.g. throw a perfect game), but just being drafted doesn't count. Everyone who ever even played college ball will be covered by independent sources. Capmango 15:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Temporary Delete until they do indeed play in one game in the MLB.--JForget 01:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all as failing WP:BIO, non-notable minor league draft picks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 23:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete None assert their notability. Clemens Award does not make you a notable (unlike the Cy Young award), it is of little consequence. Also, the baseball draft does not make them notable. Many first round picks never make the Major Leagues, even some #1 picks never make it to the Majors. Tdmg 00:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.