Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Fernandez
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:34, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
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Jason Fernandez looks like a vanity article to me. It's about a guy who owns some restaurants in Tampa, Florida, and none of them are important enough to have an articles, either. It was even worse before I took out a whole set of links to the restaurants' websites. It has been deleted twice already, it has to go to Article for Deletion now because somebody added some references, which are just restaurant reviews in the local newspaper. The guy exists, but it looks like he or somebody close to him is trying to use Wikipedia for free advertising. Thanks for your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.138.207 (talk) 19:06, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I finished the nom (nom nom!). 6an6sh6 20:51, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - Most sources are local food reviews. Only one article seems to mention him in depth. This person has not "made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field", per WP:ANYBIO. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:24, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:38, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:38, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:39, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
- Weak delete. We are not anti-business, we are just not Yellow Pages or Who's'Who. The article seems well-referenced, primarily to a number of articles in Tampa Bay Times. That said, there's only three articled there that really are about him, and it provides no more content than for a few sentences. Most of the article seems hardly relevant - we don't really need a short sentence about a restaurant, in its own section, ref'ed to [1] which doesn't even mention the subject's name. We don't have a specialized Wikipedia:Notability (entrepreneurs)/Wikipedia:Notability (businesspeople), so it's up to WP:BASIC//WP:ANYBIO, and I don't think he cuts it. Three or so articles in a single regional newspaper seem still to close to a vanity coverage than anything else. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:00, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep the nominator gets it exactly wrong. Two of the three restaurants are in fact notable enough to have their own articles (Bernini and Carne), but I chose to combine the restaurants into one article about the resterateur who runs them. This is in fact a trend in the restaurant industry, many leading chefs are establishing a group of individual restaurants rather than a chain of similar restaurants. And far from being "some restaurants" these are very significant locations in historic buildings at the center of Ybor City and Tampa revival. One is in a National Landmark and was just restored in the last few years. And another has been at the heart of the culinary resurgence in Ybor and a trendsetter and remains one of the most established and noted resaurants in the area. They have been covered very substantially. And, as noted above, there are in fact articles entirely about the restaureteur and his management of these establishments. So it makes the most sense to have an article covering these subjects in a sensible way although breaking it up into multiple articles is certainly a possiblity going forward. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:03, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete If there was more info and references showing more than just local notability at best, then...maybe. I would say delete for now. The buildings that they are in having their own notability is irrelevant. The restaurants can't inherit notability just because they lease space there. The Bernini and Green Iguana restaurants have been around awhile and possibly could be fleshed out more on their own (I don't know if they warrant their own articles or not), but Carne is not really that notable, I don't think, as you claim above. It hasn't even been open two years yet. I just don't see anything more for Jason Fernandez to warrant having his own article. Thank you. -- Shrikesong (talk) 21:15, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- There is an entire article about him, articles discussing him and his restaurants (noting for example "It's official. Jason Fernandez has an empire. Bernini, Green Iguana and Hot Willy's in Ybor City were joined April 10 by Carne", and extensive coverage of the restaurants that are part of his restaurant group. The Tampa Bay Times is a major REGIONAL paper. It is not a local paper. This article covers him AND his restaurants including the one you acknowledge is in fact notable. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:24, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SpinningSpark 22:48, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - I'm not seeing the notability. Sorry Bali88 (talk) 02:15, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
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