Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffery McKnight
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:32, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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Insufficient WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:NACADEMIC or WP:BIO. McKnight's passing is tragic, but Wikipedia is not a memorial. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:27, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:27, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- I vote to keep. Obelus19 (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Obelus19: Hello! I saw that you are new to WP and wanted to offer some help with AfD discussions. It might be helpful to review WP:AFDFORMAT. It's generally best practice to state why you are !voting keep; you'll notice below each editor states their !vote (keep, delete, etc.) and then explains the reasons for such. AFDFORMAT states, "The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations on the course of action to be taken that are not sustained by arguments." If interested, you can also read Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Note that this is an essay and not adopted as policy at this point. Hope this helps! Feel free to reach out on my talk page with any questions. --Kbabej (talk) 23:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Kbabej: Thank you, I will keep that in mind for the rest of the discussion. Obelus19 (talk) 00:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Obelus19: Hello! I saw that you are new to WP and wanted to offer some help with AfD discussions. It might be helpful to review WP:AFDFORMAT. It's generally best practice to state why you are !voting keep; you'll notice below each editor states their !vote (keep, delete, etc.) and then explains the reasons for such. AFDFORMAT states, "The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations on the course of action to be taken that are not sustained by arguments." If interested, you can also read Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Note that this is an essay and not adopted as policy at this point. Hope this helps! Feel free to reach out on my talk page with any questions. --Kbabej (talk) 23:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete.
The article doesn't even spell his name correctly...Article has correct name, it's just the AfD that is misspelled. It's tragic that such a promising researcher's career was cut short, but he just doesn't meet the requirements for NPROF. I looked at the 25 coauthors of his with 5+ articles who hold or have held research positions beyond postdoc (but including senior scientists in industry, even though many never did postdocs). These are their Scopus metrics:
- Total citations: average: 4820, median: 2304, McKnight: 646.
- Total papers: avg: 76, med: 55, M: 19.
- h-index: avg: 29, med: 27, M: 11.
- Top 5 citations: 1st: avg: 574, med: 311, M: 145. 2nd: avg: 349, med: 192, M: 125. 3rd: avg: 262, med: 130, M: 79. 4th: avg: 218, med: 109, M: 55. 5th: avg: 182, med: 79, M: 54.
- Even if we include all 38 coauthors with 5+ papers (including postdocs and grad students), he is below the median:
- TC: avg: 3289, med: 852, M: 646. TP: avg: 53, med: 20, M: 19. h-index: avg: 21, med: 15, M: 11. 1st: avg: 427, med: 190, M: 145. 2nd: avg: 254, med: 127, M: 125. 3rd: avg: 189, med: 96, M: 79. 4th: avg: 154, med: 76, M: 55. 5th: avg: 127, med: 60, M: 54. JoelleJay (talk) 20:24, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Please also note that WP:1E should apply here as well. JoelleJay (talk) 02:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with this being a 1E situation. --Kbabej (talk) 16:55, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. It is unfortunate that he died, but I don't see how this subject meets NPROF or GNG. Taking out the tweets and the self-published LinkedIn sources, the sourcing is very weak. Without the social media, two sources are by his employer (therefore non-independent sources) and so we are left with two sources about him dying. --Kbabej (talk) 20:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Keep.I corrected the spelling error earlier, if I am not mistaken his name is spelt correctly throughout the page. An category of academic notability is "the person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources". The reference from The Scientist Magazine notes that "McKnight was one of the only researchers in the world capable of intentionally manipulating chromatin structure". Would that not be a notable attribute? On the issue of sources, would expanding to more news articles and adding information from Google Scholar help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obelus19 (talk • contribs)- @Obelus19: Yes, newspaper coverage about the subject (not by him) would be helpful. --Kbabej (talk) 00:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Obelus19: I found more information that could potentially add to the article, tell me what you think.
- @Obelus19: Yes, newspaper coverage about the subject (not by him) would be helpful. --Kbabej (talk) 00:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
* https://grantome.com/grant/NIH/R01-GM129242-02 * https://people.com/human-interest/dad-lymphoma-surprised-family-plannning-life-after-death/ * https://www.dailyemerald.com/news/beloved-uo-biologist-jeff-mcknight-dies-6-months-after-cancer-diagnosis/article_a6b4565a-11af-11eb-9a63-cf39ad822b51.html * https://pages.jh.edu/bowmanlab/alumni.html * https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jeffrey-Mcknight * http://molbio.uoregon.edu/mcknight/
Some of sources provide more publications, would any of them boost his median? Also, his full name is Jeffrey Nicholas McKnight. Obelus19 (talk) 00:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Please take the time to read Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline; faculty profiles and similar links simply establish factual information, they are not reliable secondary sources that address notability criteria. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:02, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. The citation record looks well short of WP:NPROF C1 in a higher citation field, particularly when you note that the higher citation papers have the subject as middle author (in a field where that matters). The awards are strictly early career and student, and do not contribute to notability. There's actually enough media coverage of his death to make a weak case for GNG notability, with coverage e.g. in Today [1], but his sad early death looks like the kind of single event discussed in WP:BLP1E, and I don't think it's enough. The article is undercited and promotional enough that WP:TNT would be relevant. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 19:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:NPROF and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:26, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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