Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jennifer F. M. Horne
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The result was keep. Jayjg (talk) 04:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable scientist. Had a few published works but fails WP:PROF in my opinion. Article is written like an obituary. Drdisque (talk) 23:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:: i don't debate with exclusionists. Delete it!!! --Melly42 (talk) 23:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The article about her in Journal of East African Natural History is sufficient to establish notability. -- Eastmain (talk) 00:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The Journal's website suggests that it has no full-time writing or editorial staff and instead relies on and in fact solicits submissions, requesting $6.50 USD/5€ per page for publication. In my opinion this would disqualify it as any sort of notable publication. -Drdisque (talk) 01:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Most journals have publication fees, but that does not make them vanity press. As long as there is a peer-review process it is unlikely to be vanity - especially when journals are considered rather than books http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.0020105 Shyamal (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- of course keep: Jennifer Horne might not be notable for her writing but for almost 40 years of field and conservation work in Kenya (in particular for her sound recordings of birds and monkeys in Kenya) and her husband Lester L. Short (who is a very notable ornithologist) did a lot of his notable work (e.g. the rediscovery of the Cuban Ivory Billed Woodpecker in 1986 or the research study of the Honeyguides in Africa) together with his wife. --Melly42 (talk) 07:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- If she's so notable then surely there's been something written about her in something other than a vanity press, right? -Drdisque (talk) 17:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- of course keep: Jennifer Horne might not be notable for her writing but for almost 40 years of field and conservation work in Kenya (in particular for her sound recordings of birds and monkeys in Kenya) and her husband Lester L. Short (who is a very notable ornithologist) did a lot of his notable work (e.g. the rediscovery of the Cuban Ivory Billed Woodpecker in 1986 or the research study of the Honeyguides in Africa) together with his wife. --Melly42 (talk) 07:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Most journals have publication fees, but that does not make them vanity press. As long as there is a peer-review process it is unlikely to be vanity - especially when journals are considered rather than books http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.0020105 Shyamal (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Notable ornithologist and author of "Toucans, Barbets and Honeyguides" ISBN 0198546661 Shyamal (talk) 08:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- How is that book notable as to meet WP:AUTHOR? -Drdisque (talk) 17:03, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- A taxonomic monograph published by a reasonably respectable organization (Oxford University Press) and being the author of a landmark publication, "Handbook of the Birds of the World" volume would suggest that the author cannot be easily disregarded. Unfortunately citation indexes do not have impact factors for books so there may be no magic number that indicates notability or lack of it. Shyamal (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- How is that book notable as to meet WP:AUTHOR? -Drdisque (talk) 17:03, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, per above keep votes. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:36, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep; work in HBW alone sufficient evidence of notability. Maias (talk) 11:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep needs clean-up, but obviously notable Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:03, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, per above keep votes - major author on several genera. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.