Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenny Radcliffe
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Nothing other than primary sources available here other than a few passing mentions in newspapers. Not a strong delete vote, but this individual was added Wikipedia:Too soon. Isingness (talk) 10:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'd not agree, Radcliffe has been in four Ted talks and is a regular keynote at international major conferences, as well as leading security and corporate events (Infosec, Rant, DISA, Nordic IT Security, ICS2, Trend Micro, Cisco, NTT, Bright talk, Cyber Security Week and security serious). Besides that her podcast got awarded the 2018 European Best Security Podcast at the European Blogger Awards. The article has been written based of (mostly) secondary sources. That's why I believe this biography is relevant and not Wikipedia:Too soon. Kind regards, TruthToBeSpoken (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG. Sources listed in the article are primary sources. A search of Google, -News, -Newspapers, -Books, and Newspapers.com doesn't return any significant sources. Giving TED talks and speaking at conferences does not qualify as "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" Aurornisxui (talk) 16:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete, agree with above about sources and that this may be WP:TOOSOON. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:30, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep probably. There is coverage of her talks at conferences, in the Independent (Ireland), which needs a subscription (eg [1], [2]), in Computer Weekly [3], and coverage of her work even in Estonia [4], which describes her as "one of Europe's best known hacking experts" (in Estonian). Coverage is over several years (eg this Computer Weekly article from 2015 [5]). RebeccaGreen (talk) 17:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Just last week another article about Radcliffe was published in Finland: https://www.tivi.fi/Kaikki_uutiset/hakkeri-paljastaa-nain-varovaistakin-ihmista-voi-huijata-6756624. TruthToBeSpoken (talk) 19:26, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:17, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:17, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete The articles is apparently promotional, including exaggerations. Contrary to the article, she has not given 4 TED talks. he has given 4 TedX talks. Three is a very significant difference, because any organization can sponsor a TedX talk who follows the format. Not indicating this particular point is a common device of promotional writers who do not know the difference. DGG ( talk ) 18:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- TedX talks aren't necessarily commercial, and nothing that someone has spoken in a Tex(x) talk is just the same as that someone talked at another event. But I'll change the parts about Ted to "TedX". TruthToBeSpoken (talk) 19:26, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with RebeccaGreen. Hninthuzar (talk) 16:58, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV. WP:PROMO for a nonnotable podcaster.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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