Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joey Stivic

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The result was keep. Cirt (talk) 02:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Joey Stivic

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Notability not established through secondary sources.ItsLassieTime (talk) 05:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Create List of All in the Family characters and merge there. And merge the even less notable Stephanie Mills (All in the Family) to that list too. Joey at least had an anatomically correct doll based on him. —An gr 05:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The character appeared in four television series in three different decades (albeit as a regular on only one of them), and inspired a major toy company (Ideal Toy Company) to create the first "physically correct male" doll, for whatever that is worth. Note that the character and the corresponding doll probably received more news coverage around 1976-77, before the rise of the Internet, than at any later date, which means that secondary sources will be more difficult to locate than would be the case for contemporary television characters. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The character needs published secondary sources for inclusion at WP. I don't believe a doll or other spinoff item would qualify as a secondary source. It appears that the article is OR based upon the primary source, AITF episodes. ItsLassieTime (talk) 06:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Plenty of book sources [1]. The first is just about the show, I'm guessing Joey has a fair bit of coverage in there. Hobit (talk) 13:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Apparently a WP:POINT nomination--see other AfDs from this nom. Jclemens (talk) 18:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- treelo _radda 20:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a major ongoing character in All in the Family, notable regarding the influence via the toy, and also appeared in several television series. Plenty of sources exist on AITF. 23skidoo (talk) 22:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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