Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johan Nielsen

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The result was delete. czar 04:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Johan Nielsen

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fails WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 07:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Meets WP:NHOCKEY #1 by having played in the Swedish Hockey League, a top-tier league. It was a post-season game rather than a regular season game, but that is a game that counts (actually more than a regular season game). If he had only played a preseason game I would say that doesn't meet NHOCKEY because that is not a game that counts, but playing a postseason game should meet NHOCKEY. 20:04, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:25, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:25, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

*Neutral: Actually, Rlendog, you're not quite right. Nielsen didn't play a playoff game as North Americans would know it. The one game eliteprospects.com cites him as playing was in the annual relegation tournament, where the bottom two teams play the top four teams from the Allsvenskan to see which teams go up and which go down. (The Allsvenskan plays a similarly named round with teams from the Hockeyettan, the third-tier league, in which Nielsen similarly seems to have played.) This is an unusual case pertaining to Euroleagues alone, and probably worth discussing if not here. I'd honestly be more comfortable if I saw evidence Nielsen genuinely met the GNG, which given that the vast majority of his career involved J20 and third-tier teams is likely dubious. Ravenswing 08:59, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

- I did not realize that the postseason game he played in was a relegation game rather than a playoff game. Nonetheless, an SEL team saw fit to use him in a game that counted - arguably more than even a typical regular season game since relegation is pretty significant as I understand it. I would think that someone who was used in such an SEL game would have received some attention. Unfortunately all the Google News hits I get for him are from 2011 and later, which I think is nonconclusive as to his coverage prior to that since there certainly would have been at least a game summary of the relegation game he played in and even such a hit did not show up. My inclination is stil to give him the benefit of the doubt but I see your point. 15:33, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:35, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per nomination. 96.232.177.125 (talk) 21:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have any comment about the fact that he has played a meaningful game in a league that meets WP:NHOCKEY/LA? Rlendog (talk) 15:14, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think you should sign all your posts. It's confusing otherwise. 96.232.177.125 (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - As for Nielsen, this is an enormous reach. He played in ONE relegation game in 2009 for a red-linked team in the third tier of Swedish hockey, as far as I can tell. This article should never have been created in the first place, but Dolovis is here to disrupt the site by causing people to have to bring all his garbage to AfD and RfD. 96.232.177.125 (talk) 15:22, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unless GNG can be demonstrated. I find it doubtful that he played in a meaningful game. Unless he only played a partial game, he gave up 4 goals. The only games that would remain possible are the final two relegation games, both of which were irrelevent as his team had already secured their place in the top level. I believe his appearance to be marginally more than a preseason game, but I acknowledge that that is my belief.18abruce (talk) 22:12, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 13:35, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete: Given that only one editor's advocated keeping the article, I question why this was relisted a second time. That being said, no one's demonstrated evidence that the subject meets the GNG in a month. Under the circumstances, given that his only claim to fame is a single appearance in a game that there's no consensus represents top-flight action, there aren't enough grounds to keep. Ravenswing 17:00, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - nothing to indicate he passes WP:NHOCKEY, and not enough in-depth coverage to show he passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:26, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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