Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jupiter Sunrise

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete Contrary to Giggy's assertion below, a consensus discussion may apply guidelines like WP:MUSIC selectively, within reason (that's why they are guidelines, not policy.) Hereinbelow, consensus is to regard Amanda Rogers notability as suspect, and to delete despite her involvement in the group. Xoloz 15:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jupiter Sunrise

Band fails WP:MUSIC. Their only substanstiable claim to notability is the album they released. PROD contested with comment: "1 album is enough". However, WP:MUSIC requires two albums. See also the article's talk page. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 14:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleteper nom. One album isn't enough.--Sethacus 15:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Fails WP:MUSIC. --Nenyedi ^TalkDeeds_@ 16:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article needs a good rewrite, but I'm wavering on notability. WP:MUSIC calls for multiple, non-trivial reliable sources; unfortunately, a lot of the ones I've turned up are subscription- or pay-per-view pieces (which sucks). However, I did turn up this transcript from NPR (view the sample) that starts as a reference to this band; another ref that indicates they were indeed on the Warped Tour - fulfilling the "national touring" guideline (which is also indicated by gig lists and reviews from all over the States), the lead singer being quoted on CNN Money, and probably others out there. However... their record label doesn't appear to be notable, with minimal info turning up on Google, and if they broke up, that criteria isn't going to be met. Weak delete Tony Fox (arf!) 20:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete If there were WP:V coverage (from a WP:RS) of their stint on the Warped tour, that would pass WP:MUSIC, without that, they're nn. Precious Roy 16:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Yes, my prod removal was incorrect, but this article meets criteria 6 of Wikipedia:Notability (music) - it contains Amanda Rogers (musician) (not a band, but a notable independent musician). According to the article, they have also been on national tours, so they may also satisfy criteria 4. In any case, I believe they are notable. Giggy ^Talk 01:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Actually, that article appears to be ripe for deletion as well. Precious Roy 01:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While it exists, it asserts notability over this article. Delete that one, and this one can go. Giggy ^Talk 02:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it. Precious Roy 13:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless independant, reliable sources establishing notability are provided. Nuttah68 11:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article reads almost exactly like an ad, blog page, or myspace page: it carries a tone that make one think it must have been written by one of the band members, which may tread into WP:COI. And if it was not written by a band member or "roadie" (hah!) then it constitutes original research with no references or verifiability other than the band's own web site, myspace page, and fan-blog page. The band does not really assert significant notability or interests outside of the band members themselves and their girlfriends (or boyfriends), fan-roadies, clubbers where they played, and perhaps old classmates and neighbors if they were not outcasts and nuisance noise offenders in their 'hood. --T-dot ( ^Talk/contribs ) 15:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.