Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Peter I Stadium

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The result was keep. No consensus for the nomination has been established. (non-admin closure) ——Serial 08:32, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

King Peter I Stadium

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Non-notable soccer stadium that fails both WP:GNG and WP:NARENA, which holds that athletic stadia are neither presumptively notable nor inherit the notability of any teams that play there. Significant coverage has not been demonstrated to exist, the article has been inadequately sourced for over sixteen years now, and I'm seeking a redirect to FK Rad, the second-division team that plays there. Ravenswing 11:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Ravenswing 11:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. Ravenswing 11:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:14, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is some subject-specific, in-depth coverage to be found, for example: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] Intil you judge this as "weak" and "insufficient to claim 100% GNG compatibility", please take into consideration, that this stadium for many years served as a top-level football venue in the league of Yugoslavia (5 seasons), Serbia and Montenegro (12 of 14 seasons) and Serbia (13 of 15 seasons so far). It also hosted European competition games [6] This stadium is also a home venue for multiple Yugoslavian and Serbian rugby champions, Rugby Club Rad [7] and hosted international games of Serbia national team [8]. Olos88 (talk) 21:19, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reply: None of those sources are "in-depth" -- they all constitute trivial coverage, primary sources and/or namedrops. We need significant coverage, in detail, for any single source to qualify under the GNG. As far as your other points, NARENA (as well as WP:NRVE, of course) explicitly debars inherited or transitive notability: what matches the stadium has hosted are irrelevant, what teams it has hosted are irrelevant. The GNG, and only the GNG, is the only notability guideline which bears upon the subject. Ravenswing 21:32, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - former top tier stadium that has hosted European football. Giant Snowman 12:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly take a look at NARENA, which is linked at the top of this page, and explicitly states that the level of competition that may or may not have taken place at a stadium has no bearing on notability. Ravenswing 13:10, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep One of the biggest and best known stadiums in the country, long standing stadium for Yugoslav League and Serbian Superliga, enough sources. The article was taken to AfD just to illustrate a point. Ludost Mlačani (talk) 10:10, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment to nom: I am interested to learn more about WP:NARENA, however the redirect link takes me back to the generic sports notability WP:ATHLETE page and I see no mentions of "stadium", "stadia", nor "arena" (save for one instance when talking about Arena Football) on the whole page. GauchoDude (talk) 13:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes GNG, NARENA is a proposal but does not actually exist as a guideline at the moment as nom's WP:BOLD addition was reverted. Smartyllama (talk) 15:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: WP:NARENA has nothing to say on the subject of arenas and stadiums. The section link is broken and no other section covers the topic. Colonies Chris (talk) 19:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes GNG - as above, notable stadium. Deathlibrarian (talk) 23:46, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.