Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kluaynamthai

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete, after much-extended time for discussion. Discussion suggests that this is a name for an area derived from the street, rather than merely the name of the street. Avenues for improvement have been suggested, and it remains to be seen whether those will be followed up. BD2412 T 23:23, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kluaynamthai

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Has been tagged for months without improvement. Lots of mentions, but can't find enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show it passes GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:59, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If ref #2 is verifying all of the paragraph it is attached to, then that is non-trivial coverage. At the very least, the bit about being occupied by naval officers is likely verified since the book is about the role of the navy in the 1932 coup. Ref #4#5 is also non-trivial, but I reserve judgement on whether that meets WP:RS. SpinningSpark 12:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I highly doubt that the book source about the 1930s history of the Navy would support any material apart from that specific statement about Naval officers owning land in the area. Ref #4 is too Google Maps. I think you mean #5, to Propholic.com? It's a real estate website, doing write-ups of Bangkok's various neighbourhoods' development, so while not nearly academic, I think it should be good enough in most cases. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:31, 10 March 2022 (UTC), 07:35, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There's a lot of coverage, but all of it is in light of this joint project by Bangkok University and the National Innovation Agency (NIA) called "Kluaynamthai Innovative Industries District". Here's the NIA's description[1]. Several press articles[2][3][4][5][6]. Also an academic paper[7]. I question a bit whether these count as independent, as they seem to be based on material provided by the university, which is located in the neighbourhood. Merging into a new "Neighbourhoods" section in Khlong Toei district might be a good idea. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:31, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:54, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:56, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Spinningspark: Did you see that very rude comment made by the editor above. scope_creep^Talk 19:43, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment An article about the street in Bangkok doesn't appear to be notable. But an article about the banana and the associated namings from it probably is. Article needs to be a complete rewrite to be about the fruit, linking to other associations. Looking at the Thai version of the page, it's just a disambiguation to various other pages, that are redlinks. That said, the Thai disambiguation page somehow misses the university campus at th:มหาวิทยาลัยกรุงเทพ#วิทยาเขตกล้วยน้ำไท_(City_Campus). The English equivalent would be Bangkok University#City campus - but that doesn't seem a suitable place for a merge. I'm a little stumped what should be done here. There's unique encyclopaedic content here, but it's in the wrong place. If we draftify, we are most likely just deleting it. Maybe Keep does the least damage. The merge that User:Paul_012 ponders to a new "Neighbourhoods" section in Khlong Toei district might work - but it doesn't fit there either - and surely would go underneath the appropriate subdistrict first - none of which have articles. I'd have thought that these days, the area would be more likely called Ekkamai - though my only familiarity with the area is using the bus station and BTR station.Nfitz (talk) 22:13, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's a quite well known neighborhood with several things bearing its name, a road, an intersection, a university campus, a hospital, a banana breed, etc. Banana information can be split into a separate section. There is quite some room to grow the article. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 18:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.