Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Koshijin

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The result was Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Koshijin

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Completely non-notable, possibly even non-existent. Zero hits on Google scholar for this word and the two on Google books seem irrelevant. No article for 高志人 on the Japanese wikipedia. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moved article to appropriate name, added sources... not only is it not non-existent, i'd say it's notable as well. --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 18:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Article is now apparently Koshibito. I can read just one relevant hit on Google Books: Cortazzi, Hugh (1983). Isles of gold: antique maps of Japan. Weatherhill. p. 54. ISBN 0834801841. which states "Before the Nara period (710-82), all of northeastern Japan including Tohoku was called Koshi, and its inhabitants were called Koshibito by the Japanese. (Koshibito literally means 'People from over the other side')". This seems inconsistent with the current article, and is surely not enough for either verifiability or notability ("Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention"). Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 18:47, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems you've accidentally omitted a couple of other relevant hits: Transactions of the Asiatic Society of Japan. Vol. 37. 1965. p. 261. and Sansaisha, ed. (1907). Mélanges japonais. Harvard U. p. 158-61., in which it is noted: ces premiers émigrants formèrent plusieurs tribus que l'on appela... Koshi-bito... and then parmi les Koshi-bito, la plupart arrivèrent directement des côtes de Corée et de Mandchourie... In fact, the information in all the sources seems to line up pretty well, including repeated mentions of their region of origin (they are named after Koshi Province - "bito" means person, so this is only natural). --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Japanese people until/if enough information can be found to support a separate article. The one reference mentioned above is certainly enough for that. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 18:49, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep based on the sources found and added by Node ue. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 23:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Within a few seconds, I found several paper references and couple of online references as well, thanks to Google, a couple of which I have given in a comment above. The article may currently be a stub, but that alone doesn't mean in my view that it should be deleted. --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 21:03, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:23, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw. I think it best to withdraw this AFD as the article has been renamed and sources for the correct name have been provided. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:34, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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