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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:22, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Seems to fail WP:MUSIC, No significant coverage beyond local arts weekly. Best reliable source (The Atlantic) doesn't even mention her by name. Note: AFDed before, but non-adminned-closed because the sole contributor moved the article to their userspace. ccwaters (talk) 13:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Danger (talk) 20:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. A couple of Rochester City News results ([1], [2]), and one from The Atlantic ([3]). A bit thin but if one or two more examples of coverage can be found it might get there.--Michig (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment- there are more sources than just city newspaper and the atlantic... city newspaper is a weekly publication localized to northwestern new york state but it's notable enough to be included in wikipedia so i thought that it was good enough to use as a source... the article in the atlantic refers to her collaboration with nataly dawn and does mention her in the first paragraph... since dawn is a notable musician associated with a notable band according to wikipedia i thought that was good enough to use as a source... filter magazine is a noted national music magazine published quarterly... the word is a well established music magazine in the uk... noisenoisenoise is an online music magazine from the uk... as far as i can tell they're all are reliable sources... i believe she meets criteria for a major music competition as she placed in the top finalists in the 2010 newsong contest which is a major national songwriting and performance competition for independent artists in america and canada... and she is mentioned in press releases made by the contest sponsor newsong recordings which is an established independent label as well as press release by the venue where the contest was held and one by broadcast music inc which is a well known and respected music representation firm... since none of them are reprints or advertising but original press releases that have no self promotion by her or any of the musicians featured in them i thought that they were acceptable... i also sourced a contest held by the musician am that she won... i'm fairly certain that it doesn't count as a major competition but he is another notable musician according to wikipedia so again i thought that it would be acceptable... the other sources are partially youtube videos that i used to reference instrumentation and musical style and support some of the other sources... i thought that with all of the other references these would be ok to use... i've read the music notability page and it appears to me that she meets the criteria if only for the newsong contest... i've seen articles that have less notability and sometimes no sources that haven't been deleted or even considered for deletion so i'm a bit confused as to why this one is -- Max bemis is pretty cool (talk) 05:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - The sources aren't stellar but this is an individual who was subject to third party coverage. The article is nicely done and the information useful, and there is something to be said for that as well, believe it or not. Use common sense. Carrite (talk) 16:43, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment- Subject matter is notable — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holly Neuman (talk • contribs) 21:14, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per WP:MUSICBIO. The evidence shows that she has played in Rochester, Montreal, and New York City - but I'm not sure if the sources agree that's a "tour". A mention in the Atlantic and more extensive coverage locally counts. She's had two CDs of the "major minor independent" variety. I'd give her the benefit of doubt. Bearian (talk) 18:33, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: The article under discussion here has been {{rescue}} flagged by an editor for review by the Article Rescue Squadron. Yaksar (let's chat) 23:28, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Has sources, seems notable. Google news search for her name has 2,640 results making it hard to sort through. But she was given ample coverage in Filter magazine and elsewhere. Dream Focus 21:16, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Looks like enough sources have written about her to meet notability criteria. Qrsdogg (talk) 19:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.