Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Life Speaks to Me

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Basshunter discography as an WP:ATD. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 _{(ICE-T • ICE CUBE)} 16:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Life Speaks to Me

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Fails WP:NSONG. There are two non-trivial sources (might be a stretch on that too), Aftonbladet (ref #4) and EQ Music (ref #22). The remaining sources are all trivial mentions or lists of new music. The author provided some other sources on the talk page, but all those are also trivial references.

Note: this has previously been discussed at Template:Did you know nominations/Life Speaks to Me and Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Second_opinion_on_Life_Speaks_to_Me. Legoktm (talk) 05:31, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You did not refer to my last statement from 11:15, 9 May 2022 at Template:Did you know nominations/Life Speaks to Me or 11:23, 9 May 2022 at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Second opinion on Life Speaks to Me so? You have not referred to it above either so why start new discussion instead of referring to new information in previous discussions at Template:Did you know nominations/Life Speaks to Me and Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Second opinion on Life Speaks to Me? At this point this RfD is fake. What are we doing here? Eurohunter (talk) 08:08, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I read it at the time, just didn't have anything new to reply. The sources you mentioned are from reputable/reliable sources, it's just that they're trivial mentions that don't qualify for notability under WP:NSONG. For example, take the NetFan.pl source. It allocates about 3 sentences on the Life Speaks to Me song, spending more time detailing Basshunter's past accomplishments. That it also reads like a press release also gives it less weight it in my eyes. Then there are sources like tophit.ru which are just a list of top songs, don't really establish notability (I believe these don't qualify under WP:CHART, please correct me if I'm wrong). Legoktm (talk) 05:09, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Legoktm: TopHit is recommanded charts provider and the linked page is a article like in Billboard or Official Charts. Eurohunter (talk) 17:25, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Legoktm: "It allocates about 3 sentences on the Life Speaks to Me song" - I could say it's whole paragraph but what do you expect from article about new single? I think it's often like that in case of singles. Eurohunter (talk) 17:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:34, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. As for the validity of the discussion, deletion proposals and DYK proposals are two different conversations so this "RfD is fake" line makes no sense. QuietHere (talk) 02:25, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ASTIG️🙃 _{(ICE-T • ICE CUBE)} 12:00, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- @QuietHere: "deletion proposals and DYK proposals are two different conversations so this "RfD is fake" line makes no sense" - I did not refer to two places of discussion. I mean Legoktm just thought refernces are bad so for him it was not enough to notability. So I have checked these sources and provided additional information at talk page. He didn't not look at it and not answered - just nominated AfD - it's like it looks. Eurohunter (talk) 17:45, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - It should be atleast redirected. Eurohunter (talk) 17:25, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That's not even what I was saying, I was saying that you calling this discussion "fake"/illegitimate and dismissing it with a "What are we doing here?" is silly and rude because starting an XfD shouldn't be negated by some other ongoing discussion unless that discussion is about fixing problems with the page that the XfD is also addressing. And besides, Legoktm already said they looked at the sources you provided and that they weren't any good so accusing them of ignoring you is baseless.
    
    As for redirecting, yes, do that. Dunno why that isn't just the default option anyway. If there's an artist/discography page then why wouldn't you redirect to it? QuietHere (talk) 17:37, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @QuietHere: He had his arguments and I provided additional information to explain the situation - so in normal discussion you expect that he will provide any answer negative or positive, whatever. It's easy to say after that he not noticed improvements so he not answered. You expect an answer otherwise it can be considered as ignored. Without answer you don't know if for him nothing changed or he just ignored it. Eurohunter (talk) 17:52, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    
    @QuietHere: Let's be precise. "Legoktm already said they looked at the sources you provided" - he did it after I accused him. Eurohunter (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to artist. No attempt has been made to claim the validity of the sources in the article. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 15:20, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @TenPoundHammer: How references are outdated? Eurohunter (talk) 17:45, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - It should be atleast redirected. Eurohunter (talk) 17:25, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Basshunter discography. Fails WP:NSONG per nom. SBKSPP (talk) 00:18, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @SBKSPP: What do you mean? Did you checked refernces? Eurohunter (talk) 17:25, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Is there not a rule against replying to every single person who responds to an AfD? QuietHere (talk) 19:48, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.