Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ATK (football club) players

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of ATK players. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of ATK (football club) players

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Duplicate article of two years old List of ATK players, no point in maintaining two articles.- Akhiljaxxn (talk) 05:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:24, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Mess is done with article List of ATK (football club) players under the heading of the article ATK (football club) and included everything that the article requires whereas the article List of ATK players has copied everything form List of ATK (football club) players and I'd request everyone involved in the discussions to let List of ATK (football club) players sustain.
I'd also cite that the user who proposed it's deletion has forced perfect article List of ATK (football club) players to redirect and the list of them only enlisted 3 players of the first season but List of ATK (football club) players has enlisted every player which these dominant guys has simply copied and pasted. I even proposed deletion of List of ATK players but they messed by removing messages many a times. I'm agitated that my labour was undone. SHISHIR DUA (talk) 06:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC). Retain the article and delete List of ATK players instead.[reply]
Delete Or rather, some kind of soft merge? The article is the same except for a different coat of paint.
To @Akhiljaxxn, looking at the edit history of the article you authored, it seems you have been taking a lot of inspiration from the duplicate article. While this is fine, it does seem rude to other editors.
To SHISHIR DUA, it seems you were aware of the article's existence, as you had edited it in April of 2019. If you felt the article was not sufficient, why not improve it instead of making a new one?
And to you both, I would suggest you ~~shake hands~~ bump elbows and both contribute to one article. Preferably List of ATK players Thepenguin9 (talk) 09:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete You don't need two articles for the same thing. Govvy (talk) 11:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as duplicate. Giant Snowman 17:58, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Merge/histmerge.~~ It's difficult to tell from the histories what came first and where it came. There have been a significant number of copy/pastes, redirects and undoings. We don't need two lists for the same thing, and List of ATK players would seem to be the correct name. But wherever it ends up, please will the closing admin make sure that, for correct attribution, all the relevant history gets attached to whichever page remains.
Also, SHISHIR DUA, you may want to have a look at WP:CANVASS, so that next time you notify others about an AfD, you do it in a neutral manner. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:36, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per MrClog. Much simpler. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:27, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of ATK players. I have added {{copied}} to both pages to make sure that proper attribution is given. The page should not be deleted as long as List of ATK players exist, because the page's history serves as attribution for the copied content. Histmerge may be possible, though would be quite complicated in this circumstance I'm afraid, because editing has continued on both pages. --MrClog (talk) 12:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: List of ATK players This was created in 2018, and List of ATK (football club) players this one in 2020. So, there's no point in keeping the later one. If someone copy-pastes from one to another then its a different editor-editor issue. The name ATK is more suitable. Also, the overseas article should be merged with this one. Thus, I vote for delete or just redirect to previous one. ❯❯❯ S A H A 13:01, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment : Delete should not be the option for this one. This was what the List of ATK players looking like untill the materials copied from List of ATK (football club) players, so I am not convinced, why List of ATK (football club) players should be deleted, why not List of ATK players? WP:HISTMERGE can be a option but may not be possible or WP:R may be the best option. Dey subrata (talk) 16:18, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting the page is indeed not an option, as it would create a copyright (attribution) problem. Redirect seems best to me, because List of ATK players is a more suitable title, and that way we can keep the attribution. --MrClog (talk) 16:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MrClog and Dey subrata:; SHISHIR DUA made his first edit on the page List of ATK players back in 2019. Which means he was well aware of the existence of that page. And there is no need to create a new page for the same subject in the very next year.– Akhiljaxxn (talk) 17:33, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Akhiljaxxn: That's why we want to turn it into a redirect. That way, the legally required attribution still exists. --MrClog (talk) 17:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have redirected it once, but he restored it.– Akhiljaxxn (talk) 17:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SHISHIR DUA can you explain the above mentioned edit, otherwise it looks a wastage of time for all here. Dey subrata (talk) 18:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dey subrata the redirect seems to have been done without any consensus so this line of inquiry seems moot. Thepenguin9 (talk) 19:36, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Thepenguin9: the redirect was actully based on the proposel of him.– Akhiljaxxn (talk) 03:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You misinterpreted his request. He was requesting that your article be merged into his, due to the Proposed Deletion template he used, (unfortunately Merge to is the right one) Thepenguin9 (talk) 09:47, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per MrClog. Shanze1 (talk) 04:42, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.