Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Doctor Who robots

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:09, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Doctor Who robots

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WP:OR without independent sources or any indication of notability. There isn't anything other than a WP:DIRECTORY of Doctor Who episodes that might feature a robot. Wikipedia doesn't support repeated WP:SYNTH lists where editors research patterns across television episodes. Editors should fix the main character list instead of expanding their flaws across multiple faulty lists. Jontesta (talk) 21:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Jontesta (talk) 21:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. Deleting a well-established article that has been refined and improved by numerous contributors, and which many users find valuable, undermines the collective effort and the utility it provides.

2. Wikipedia's scope has expanded, allowing for more inclusive content. Articles that were deleted a decade ago due to non-notability are now encouraged and considered relevant.

3. While source citations were less emphasized when I initially created the article, contributors have since verified and corrected any inaccuracies, ensuring the article's reliability. DavidFarmbrough (talk) 19:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well established articles don't exactly get a free pass from discussions about their quality and issues they may have on the website. They need to be verifiable and notable to continue to exist on the website.
While true, that is primarily due to new sources being discovered allowing for more revivals on articles where that sourcing did not exist at the time, not due to any laxing of restrictions.
There are only four citations on the article, and many entries are unsourced and are only a redirect to another topic they're a part of. Even if this is kept, it needs a major overhaul to verify its contents as a whole.

Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment are there any articles on robotic characters in the various books discussing Doctor Who's science? I recall seeing at least one or two, but searching for them proves difficult given that most searches for "Doctor Who robot" tends to just pull results from the episode Robot (Doctor Who). If nothing else can be found I'd suggest a partial merge to list of List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens, as several of these characters (Such as Autons, Yeti, and Quarks) do have associations with several entries currently on the list, with some of the robots that are considered species potentially being included in that list as well (Such as the Roboforms, Sandminer Robots, Mechonoids, for example). Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pokelego999: The Science of Doctor Who has two chapters on the topic, "What are Doctor Who's most memorable robots" and "Do androids dream of Doctor Who?", but I cannot access them to see how much material there is. Daranios (talk) 11:09, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think merging the major robots to List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens is a good idea. Toughpigs (talk) 20:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge selectively, per Toughpigs. Some of these have WP:TRIVIALCOVERAGE, which fails WP:LISTN as such a narrow spinoff of characters. If we're looking for one list to cover these characters, List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens seems like it's constructed in a neutral way that's consistent with the sources. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is more support for a Merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge selectively to List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens. Much better than keeping or deletion. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP is not a fan wiki and I don't see any mergeable content within the article. Fails WP:NLIST and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I have no objection if specific, sourced entries for specific robots were added to the List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens, but given that this list consists of entries that are either nothing but links to episodes or unsourced material, I don't think using this as a basis for a Merge would be appropriate for that. Rorshacma (talk) 02:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively to List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens. Simply not enough references to make this notable as a separate article. Original research is an issue. StewdioMACK (talk) 14:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively to List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens for the groups and List of Doctor Who supporting characters for the major individuals, to help both targets become more complete either with regard to navigation or the little information we have attributed to secondary sources here. There are many secondary sources for this topic, but with exception of The Science of Doctor Who most of what I have seen discuss individual entries rather than the robots as a group. Daranios (talk) 11:09, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.