Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of National Wrestling Alliance personnel

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:27, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of National Wrestling Alliance personnel

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Fails WP:GNG. The promotion doesn't include a roster page on their website. Most of sources don't support wrestlers beign signed by NWA, just that worked on some events. Most sources are Twitter, Facebook, YouTube or Instagram matchcards. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:11, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:15, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just for context. For pro wrestling personnel, we include only people who are under contract with the promotion. Small and middle size promotions, like NWA, uses a lot of free agents and occasional talent. Most of the sources are just list of matches, but they don't mention wrestlers signing with NWA, just that they worked (in some cases, years ago) with NWA. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep? I don't have strong feelings about this one, but there are plenty of sources on there that aren't social media, though I'm not sure they satisfy WP:SIRS. This seems like a list of other articles that have an association with the National Wrestling Alliance, and it's also probably a good place to redirect wrestlers that don't satisfy notability guidelines on their own. Kalethan (talk) 18:10, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, there are some of them, but several of them are just results. For example, N 23 it's results from 2021. N 24 it's just list of matches of the wrestler, doens't mention a contract signed with NWA. Source 11, matches from 2021, no mention about Luke Hawx signing. There are just a few explicity stating the talent signed a contract with NWA, like Kylie Alexa, Miss Kate or EC3.
  - Comment - Kalethan - Basically with any fed that isn't WWE, and even with WWE sometimes, it's really hard to know who is under what kind of contract or when. There's so many AEW wrestlers who are on pay-per-appearance deals and various people who aren't even officially under contract are often on TV weekly. It's even worse with non-American companies.KatoKungLee (talk) 15:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:35, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete An official roster is necessary for verification of such lists. Notable professional wrestling promotions have official roster; e.g. WWE, AEW, Impact, NJPW, ROH, Stardom, and the others. --Mann Mann (talk) 06:48, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mann Mann - ROH's roster lists a person who is dead (Jay Briscoe) and a person (Jericho) who has never actually competed in Ring of Honor. NJPW lists people who are not signed and only compete on their US shows. Impact lists people who are retired, with other companies or not even with the company period.KatoKungLee (talk) 03:06, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 02:26, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Seems like the two options suggested so far are Redirect and Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:21, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Probably not suitable for a standalone list under WP:NLIST, and the sourcing issues here are severe. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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