Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Sailor Moon locations

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Wikiacc (¶) 17:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Sailor Moon locations

Unnotable list of locations in Sailor Moon, barely sourced and what is sourced comes from a handful of primary sources. The rest is filled with plot details and personal opinions/suppositions/theories. No real-world notability of any of these locations, and what relevance they have to the plot is covered simply by mentioning them in the relevant context. Wikipedia is not a Sailor Moon guide, not is it a place of excessive plot details. This list fails WP:FICT and WP:NOT. Collectonian (talk) 18:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. —Collectonian (talk) 18:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ...this, on the other hand (just came from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Sailor Moon actors) seems much like WP:FANCRUFT and information of a fictional nature that fails WP:N on a real world level. --Pmedema (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the notability guideline most closely related to this article, Wikipedia:Notability (fiction), is still in a proposed state without a clear consensus. -Malkinann (talk) 20:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question: If this is deleted, where do we put the information on plot-important, non-arc-specic areas such as the Hikawa Shrine and Juuban High School? --Masamage ♫ 20:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This is a serious question. I don't mind the article being deleted if there's a good answer to it. When multiple articles make reference to a significant location, where do we put the central explanation of what that place is? --Masamage ♫ 20:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You don't. There is no need to give that level of detail when mentioning the girls go to X school. Its not an unusual school, its a school. First mention of Rei's school, note its all girls. That's all that is necessary. None of the places in the series play a significant role in the series nor are they so unique as to need a list that can show no real-world significance or coverage. It could be any school or any shrine. Collectonian (talk) 20:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That works for the schools, but other places simply have more information about them and need more coverage. However, looking down the list in the article itself I see that there's basically nothing which can't be narrowed down to its significance to just one character or one story arc, so any useful information can receive its brief mention in those places. All right, I'm satisfied. --Masamage ♫ 20:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no real-world significance here. Eusebeus (talk) 00:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki and then delete. There's a Sailor Moon wikia here. --Nick Penguin_(contribs) 01:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That SM wiki tends to have its information ported to WikiMoon, a more popular Sailor Moon wiki with an incompatible license to Wikipedia. -Malkinann (talk) 07:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as more cruftyness. Blaxthos ( t / c ) 03:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep due to notability to people in the real world and consistent with Wikipedia's first pillar, i.e. a specialized encyclopedia on Sailor Moon. Discrminate list as well. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 07:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This looks mostly like fancruft, i.e. plot details with some trivia and opinions, not an encyclopedic view on the topic. Still can be very interesting to fans of course, so I'd also be for transwikiing if someone wants to do that. And the locations which do have enough significance can be mentioned in the main articles if they are not yet. --Minimaki (talk) 12:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Even aside from the question of whether this meets the notability guidelines, which I agree this does not, there's the question of utility: as best as I can tell, this information is most useful as part of the various discussions of the characters/stories. So: copy out any relevant bit to the relevant place, and redirect to Sailor Moon. There's too many links to this page, even aside from the temlpate link, to delete outright. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
KeepThere's more than one way of presenting this sort of information. Tho the material can be gathered out of other articles, collecting it in one piece is also a good way to go. We can do both, at least for the most important series DGG (talk) 23:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete - Unverifiable, in-universe style, lead is self-referential. Has no business being on wikipedia. This can go somewhere here: Wikipedia:Alternative outlets.--SevernSevern (talk) 14:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.