Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of animated feature films awards
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. After several weeks, nobody has put in a good argument specifically for keeping the article, only that some of the content could be put in a different article.
If anyone would like the contents of this article userfied for further work, let me know. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:31, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
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Article of uncertain utility, whose title isn't really an accurate reflection of the contents. This isn't a list of animated film awards per se, but an exhaustive series of tables of every individual film that won various animated film awards -- but since each of those awards either already has or should have a standalone list of its own winners anyway, there's very little pressing need for an omnibus one-stop-shopping platform to table all of their winners together.
Further, some of those tables have so many columns that they're side-scrolling well past the rightmost margin of the page, which is poor article design as tables should really be kept to a fixed left-to-right width — sidescrolling past the left or right margins negatively impacts the article's readability, and defeats any potential purpose of tabling the winners of different awards together in the first place: if the idea was "to provide a comparison of the winners of different awards", but it's impossible to compare the winners of any awards whose columns are more than one margin's width away from each other because there's no way to see those two columns on screen at the same time, then what was the point?
I'm certainly willing to withdraw this if somebody's willing to tackle converting it into a genuine list of awards, which just links to each award's own standalone list of its own winners instead of trying to comprehensively table all the winners itself, but it's just not all that useful (or accurately titled) in its current format. Bearcat (talk) 15:43, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Comics and animation. Bearcat (talk) 15:43, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Awards and Lists. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:36, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment List if a bit of a mess as it is right now but I don't see in concept anything wrong with listing awards for feature films.★Trekker (talk) 18:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Rename it List of winners of awards won by animated feature films. The table should be changed so there is a scrollbar for the bottom. Dream Focus 12:12, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- There is a scrollbar to scroll across the tables — the problem isn't that such a scrollbar is somehow lacking, it's that there shouldn't be any need for a scrollbar because content should never extend past the page's existing right margin in the first place.
And as for just renaming it, the question remains, why would an omnibus "list of winners of awards won by animated feature films" even be necessary in the first place? Since any notable award will already have its own standalone list of its own winners anyway, why would we also need a one-stop-shopping list to view all of their winners together, separately from the standalone lists that already exist? Bearcat (talk) 14:18, 19 August 2023 (UTC)- Not commenting on this nomination itself at all, but just thought I'd note that there are many different screen sizes. And the reason we have side scrolling, is for reasons such as this. But that's just a question of page formatting, and I presume, has nothing to do with the question of whether a page should be deleted... - jc37 18:55, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- And properly formatted content that's sticking within standard margins adjusts itself to whatever the reader's screen resolution is, so that sidescrolling remains unnecessary regardless because the table self-adjusts rather than becoming a sidescroller. So different screen resolutions aren't a riposte to the sidescrolling problem, because a properly formatted table just readjusts itself to stay inside whatever the user's margins are at any resolution. Bearcat (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Not commenting on this nomination itself at all, but just thought I'd note that there are many different screen sizes. And the reason we have side scrolling, is for reasons such as this. But that's just a question of page formatting, and I presume, has nothing to do with the question of whether a page should be deleted... - jc37 18:55, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- There is a scrollbar to scroll across the tables — the problem isn't that such a scrollbar is somehow lacking, it's that there shouldn't be any need for a scrollbar because content should never extend past the page's existing right margin in the first place.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:22, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: what about a simple list of awards, not award winners, like this draft in my user space:
- It needs work. For instance, it follows the organization of the current list -- is the United Kingdom part of Europe? Opinions may vary about the UK and Europe these days, but France -- isn't France still in Europe?
- Also, it's extremely weighted towards the U.S. - lots of local film critic awards (San Diego, Seattle, etc.). I'm not sure that's a problem to solve this week, however.
- @Bearcat
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 03:54, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- After several hours working on my draft, I discovered this:
- Many awards appear on that list or my list but not both.
- I'm turning in. I'll look at this more tomorrow.
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 05:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see LISTN being met, and I don't see what navigational purpose is served that isn't already covered by existing lists of awards and films. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:05, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 06:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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