Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films featuring Mini cars

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 17:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC) why the hell has this list been deleted?!?!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.98.129 (talk) 02:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of films featuring Mini cars

Delete - Wikipedia is not a repository of loosely-associated topics. That a particular make or model of car appears in a film is not sufficient to justify this article. Otto4711 03:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film and TV-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 22:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 22:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that a substantial number of lists in Category:Lists of films with features in common have recently been put up for AfD. Rather than discuss each one in turn, perhaps it would be more productive to have a single discussion somewhere? SteveBaker 04:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unaware of a way to discuss multiple articles other than a mass nomination. Since there are something like 30 articles in the category, a number of which present different issues, I felt that a mass nomination would be chaotic and would make it impossible to reach consensus on anything. Otto4711 04:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good way to decide on such an issue, if all main editors of the lists have been invited. Hoverfish Talk 09:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is a good way to decide on such an issue (even though about half the nominations seem to have been done in haste, without thinking things through, probably as a sideline to trying to delete the whole category). Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 00:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose there's some reason why you're failing to assume good faith on my part but I don't know what that reason might be. Otto4711 02:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ~~& convert into a category.~~Crypticfirefly I'm changing my vote, as I did not consider long enough. I was thinking this was a list of movies with Mini's in them in the sense that a film like Herbie the Love Bug would be in a list of movies with Volkswagen Beetles in them. But most of these only have brief scenes with Mini's in them. Crypticfirefly 01:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Loose association. Could be categorised if required. A list is meant to have some sort meaningful entry data, not just a list of names, otherwise it is merely a category listing.--Dacium 06:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Mini cars? Who cares? JuJube 07:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Mini car enthusiasts care (and there are a LOT of Mini enthusiasts). This information was originally collected on an car enthusiast site - later moved to Wikipedia to allow linking to movie descriptions. SteveBaker 18:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Oh, sorry. ^_^ JuJube 01:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If this information was lifted from another website then it's a copyright violation and needs to be removed immediately. Otto4711 17:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily. Mere lists of facts, mechanically arranged, cannot be copyrighted under U.S. law. That's why the phone directory isn't under copyright. The mere fact that this information was originally collected elsewhere don't automatically mean that this listing is a copyright violation.Crypticfirefly 01:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete, and no category either. Listing films by what kind of cars are in them is just asking for trouble. Some films would be in dozens of categories like that. Recury 18:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete yet another "List of films with/featuring/involving/by whatever" that amounts to an indiscriminate list. Arkyan 18:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem is that you are looking it from the point of view of the movies - look at it from the point of view of the car. If you are a classic car owner/enthusiast/restorer then it's very relevent to be able to find a list of movies where these cars can be found. It's at least as relevent as a list of all of the movies a particular actor has appeared in. SteveBaker 18:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - You bring up a valid point in that it's no worse than the lists of movies by a particular actor. I would contend that those too are arbitrary lists of loosely related topics. In any case, it might be relevant to a Mini enthusiast to find a list of movies that show a Mini in them, but that's not what Wikipedia is for - it's an encyclopedia, not an almanac or catch-all reference guide. Arkyan 19:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
delete per nom. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 21:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Definitely could use some cleanup and expansion of the lead paragraph, and it does have clearly defined parameters. It also could use some further explanation of the role of the cars in the film especially for films that focus on them ("The Italian Job"). --Nehrams2020 05:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you really think that it's encyclopedic to have an article full of entries like "The Wicker Man (1973) The Mini makes an all-too-brief cameo in the opening scenes as a police car in which Edward Woodward takes a trip from his water-landing aeroplane back to his local nick." and "Munich (film) (2005) When the Mossad Squad are in London, a Mini drives past Avner"? I mean, really?

'Weak keep, the rest as per Nehrams2020. Hoverfish Talk 09:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless others can bring in better reasons for keeping this list. If you come up with a reason that hasn't been discussed yet, feel free to drop a note on my talk page to see if I will change my vote. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 18:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.