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Steven Wiig

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as an actor, fails WP:ENT, having only one notable named role in Milk (2008 American film). all his remaining credits are unnamed, often uncredited roles, with even his most notable appearance in Into the Wild (film) being an unnamed ferry ranger. only one local source is used as evidence for this "notability", alongside IMDb which is not reliable per WP:IMDBREF. as a musician, he fails WP:NMUSIC; his most notable accomplishment is playing in a band that Metallica's bass player also played in. once again, the "notability" for his music career is established with only one source. jeschaton (immanentize) 20:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan

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Does not meet notability guidelines. User:McKhan wrote a good explanation on the talk page. Sahaib (talk) 19:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kampala Sun

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The article has 8 references, all of which provide only passing mentions. Does not satisfy WP:SIGCOV in multiple RS. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 20:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Beyond the 8 mention in the article with one being entirely about Kampala Suna, I found the news outlet mentioned in multiple other reliable sources like AllAfrica which mentions the EiC, ~~BBC,~~ and countless mentions in the New Vision which is one of the biggest news organisations in Uganda FuzzyMagma (talk) 05:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@FuzzyMagma: Could you please elaborate on what the BBC article says about Kampala Sun? TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:30, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, “sun” in Hausa means “central”. I confused Kampala Central with Sun. Comment deleted above FuzzyMagma (talk) 06:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing as I was digging I found that a Kampala Sun article was used as an evidence by the International Criminal Court during Dominic Ongwen trial FuzzyMagma (talk) 06:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

More, the self-published book UgLish: Dictionary of Ugandan English by Ugandan analysts Bernard Sabiiti mentions “Kampala Sun , written by Jay Pinto is one of the most popular gossip columns in the tabloid press in Uganda” in page 34. Similar passage was written in Africa An Encyclopedia of Culture and Society, 3 Volumes

It was mentioned in Insights Into Uganda published by Fountain Publishers FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Vilnius (1812)

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This article is an AI-generated hoax about a fictional "Battle of Vilnius". The absolute majority of the article does not describe an actual battle but instead discusses broader aspects of Napoleon's invasion of Russia, logistical issues, and unrelated details, going as far as to mention Napoleon's exile to Saint Helena. In reality, there was no significant combat in Vilnius during this time. As the article itself shows, the city was abandoned by the Russians and captured by the French with essentially no resistance. The only actual statement about the "Battle of Vilnius" in the whole article is:

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Napoleon's troops entered Vilnius on June 28, with little opposition.

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Yet the article absurdly claims that:

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around 73,000 soldiers died, and wounded (sic)

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As for the "second battle" of Vilnius (the distinction between the first and second battles is only made in the infobox), once again there is no evidence of a battle:

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The French hoped Vilna would offer some reprieve, but the city proved indefensible, and Cossacks soon flooded in.

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The article is also AI-generated: for example, subsections like "Weather and Logistical Struggles" and "Supply Issues" (both under two lines long) follow a predictable pattern, typical of content generated by AI models. The "Artifacts" section, also clearly AI-generated, is backed by a reliable source that makes no mention of this so-called battle, simply stating that Napoleonic artifacts were found in Vilnius. Other issues include a "Background" section that explains how the campaign "reshaped European geopolitics", mostly addressing events that happened after the "battle", unrelated images (including one with no caption at all), and absurd army sizes and casualty numbers (quoted above) in the infobox. Excommunicato (talk) 19:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GoBolt

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Fails WP:NCORP, sourced to press releases (fail WP:ORGIND) and funding reports (fail WP:ORGTRIV). ~ A412 ^talk! 19:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Technical College of the Rockies

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of this tech school to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 19:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Husam Zaman

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This person does not meet WP:ACADEMIC, for being a university president! Sabirkir (talk) 19:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Krishna McKenzie

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Article does not appear to meet WP:NBIO from a Google search and so should be deleted or redirected to Samayal Express. Sahaib (talk) 19:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This article is a stub being expanded. Google News has credible sources. The individual's notability does not exclusively come from Samayal Express, thus should not be redirected there. EelamStyleZ (talk) 19:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, I apologise for violating WP:NPPHOUR, I am new to the job and was a bit too eager to reduce the backlog. Sahaib (talk) 20:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Anti-Bangladeshi disinformation in India

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Fails WP:NOTABILITY and WP:RS. Most of the Sources come from local Indian and Bangladeshi news websites and are usually misinterpreted and unreliable. Other users at the talk page suggested this might be WP:SOAPBOX. Information that is properly sourced could easily be merged into a different article, SKAG123 (talk) 19:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

pinging @Nahian @Tamzin @Za-ari-masen @Kautilya3 @Xoocit SKAG123 (talk) 19:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Generation Beta

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I really think that it's WP:TOOSOON to have this article. Gen Beta has only existed for eight days right now, there is nothing about them that can be written at this current time. All the predictions on this article (such as AI and automation being part of everyday life) are WP:CRYSTALBALL territory. Not to mention that this entire page is based on the predictions of one guy, Mark McCrindle. I'm not saying that he's necessarily a bad source but he's the only person this article is about. Maybe this page should exist after a few years if/when his predictions come true and gen beta is old enough to actually speak. Di (they-them) (talk) 19:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ari Louis

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This individual does not meet Wikipedia notability guidelines. He has not received significant coverage in reliable sources and sources independent of the subject. Most of the references either do not mention individual, mention individual in passing only, or are links to blogs, social media posts, or subject's YouTube page. Firecat93 (talk) 17:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The consensus in the original AfD discussion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ari Louis) was to delete the page. Firecat93 (talk) 18:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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De De Pyaar De 2

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Fails WP:NFILM. Not scheduled for release until November and nothing notable about the production. References are announcements or other churnalism. Attempted redirect but that was disputed. CNMall41 (talk) 18:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I agree with the PROD initiating editor to redirect instead of deleting. But since that was disputed, I don't think it should be deleted. It's a continuing sequel of an already existing article on wikipedia. The page should be redirected until release.

Battle of al-Qarn (1160)

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The article fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. There is hardly any coverage of this battle in English-language sources. The sole English source cited does not reference "al-Qarn" and only briefly discusses hostilities between the Almohads and Arab tribes. The remaining four sources, which are in French, either briefly mention the fighting in passing or don't even mention "al-Qarn" at all. Skitash (talk) 18:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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It is an important battle in the history of the region at the time, same as the battle of Sebiba (which still dosent have an article, il think of maybe making) or the Battle of Haydaran the Battle is well described using the 1962 Book 'Berberie Orientale sous les Zirides' that describes most of the battles context. And the battle isnt as briefly explained, if its english sources that you need i will add more if you will let me move it back to a draft.

Thank you Algerianeditor17 (talk) 18:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. There is hardly any coverage of this battle in English-language sources. Not a valid deletion criterion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as per nom; fails WP:GNG, in-passing mentions in the provided sources. Snowstormfigorion (talk) 13:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Passing through passive mentions is not want we want. No proper reference. Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 19:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. It sounds like @Algerianeditor17 is claiming that non-English sources are available that pass WP:GNG, so perhaps they can work on it in draftspace and have it reviewed in WP:AFC? --Richard Yin (talk) 19:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FlashDevelop

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Abandonware with no indication of notability per WP:PRODUCT or WP:GNG, deleted on notability grounds following a prod in 2022. Article was recreated as a redirect to the apparently unrelated MonoDevelop in 2023, and the current version is a second attempt at creating a stub from the redirect. Last commit to the software project on GitHub was 4 years ago (before this article was last deleted), and a WP:BEFORE search turns up no significant coverage in reliable sources, just run of the mill coverage in developer blogs. Wikishovel (talk) 17:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: It's obvious that the subject is not notable given The Products Notability Guideline. I suggest it should be deleted, not relisted Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 19:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Johl Younger

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Fails GNG and SPORTBASIC. Canary757 (talk) 17:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails basic GNG. Should not be included here, if not drafted properly with good sources. Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 19:12, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Credence Hospital

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This seems to be a straightforward promotion of an IVF clinic and doesn't meet the WP:NHOSPITAL guidelines. Charlie (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments: There is a Wikipedia:WikiProject Hospitals/Tutorials#Notability, but the consensus remains unclear to me, and my own standards are not measured in the same way. Bearian (talk) 02:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per norm. Fails WP:NORG. - Ratnahastin (talk) 11:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Why does the article reads like an AI generated text in the first place. Basically promotional without any form of notability. The editing admin should read the article first before concluding based on mere votes or comments. But to me, it's looks AI generated. Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 19:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Smith (Vicar of Great Paxton)

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No evidence this individual passes WP:NBIO, WP:GNG. No pass on WP:NAUTHOR either; there's a published response to Smith's polemic on Quakerism but nothing else verifiable. (The Bockett letter does not appear to have been published and thus would not count as a review.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Svensson (company)

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Reason for deletion: The article fails Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations and companies. Additionally, the article lacks citations altogether. FilipeMRGouveia (talk) 18:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jenson Kendrick

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Snooker player who fails GNG and SPORTBASIC, No notable success during short career. Canary757 (talk) 17:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- Redirect to 2022 Q School as ATD.
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Creation Myth by Tom Otterness

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I for the life of me can't find any reliable sources. the place and sculpture exists, but I don't think that it's notable. The only source I can find is

https://brooklynrail.org/2014/12/artseen/tom-otterness-creation-myth/

but I don't think this is particularly reliable. Everything else I could find online was not independent, or was covering a replacement of one of the sculptures with a bronze copy. I think this is a WP:TNT, WP:GNG, and is full of WP:PROMO in current form. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 18:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Amnesty (band)

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Appears to fail WP:NBAND and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - As a collector of classic funk I have seen brief references to this band over the years, with their sole early 70s album popping up occasionally as one of those lost rarities of interest to geeks like Kanye West. Here's an example: [1]. Unfortunately, they simply did not achieve reliable media coverage, with their 1970s tenure only barely visible in funk history books today, and their 2000s reunion being ignored by more modern media. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Future Supply Chains

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 15:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Nippon Express, which has a controlling interest in this NN company. Bearian (talk) 02:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Verso Recto

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Fails WP:GNG. Couldn't find any significant coverage for the game. Only notable thing seems to be that award it supposedly won (reference is dead, archived version doesn't exist). Even if a source was found for the award, the game would still need something else substantial written about it.

Note 1: This game is not to be confused with a 2021 board game called "Recto Verso", which seems to be a completely different game.

Note 2: I suspect the article creator has an undisclosed conflict of interest. Mika1h (talk) 14:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I found the archive [2] but that's about it. Not seeing anything else. Timur9008 (talk) 13:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jindal India Thermal Power

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. No sources at all. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 15:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for want of information sufficiently accessible to determine what it is. I'd be open to a redirect to India energy law or a holding company. Bearian (talk) 02:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kent RO Systems

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 15:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment as a public company with 40% market share it should be notable but the references in the article certainly need improving so hopefully some new ones will be presented in this discussion, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+1, it does pass notability imo but it clearly needs major work before it can be passed of as an encyclopedia entry. Xoocit (talk) 10:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: References are weak for now. This article needs improvement with significant coverage from reliable sources. For now it is a Delete or Draft. B-Factor (talk) 07:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Danish artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards

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This seems to be a textbook case of a non-encyclopaedic cross-categorisation that does not warrant a stand-alone article. Similar case to List of Welsh artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards, List of Belgian artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards, List of Russian artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards and List of Finnish artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards. My arguments for deletion remain exactly the same as at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Welsh artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards. I don't see any WP:RS taking significant notice of the phenomenon of Danish artists being nominated for the MTV Europe Music Awards. The sources recently added verify that Aqua, Junior Senior and Lukas Graham were respectively nominated for various awards at the MTV Europe Music Awards but, importantly, none of the sources discuss all 3 artists as a group nor is there any extended commentary on their Danish nationality. In fact, only the Variety source seems to make any reference to Denmark. I did a quick WP:BEFORE and couldn't find any news sources writing about this phenomenon. It seems to be a list for the sake of having a list. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Support Does not seem to merit a stand-alone article per above. Uffda608 (talk) 17:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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12 Blues

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Not notable. Only notable thing on the article to me was "world's first hotel residences offered for sale by the government of the Maldives." which is far-fetched to me. Unilandofma^{(Talk to me!)} 04:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features)#Scope says:
For the purpose of this guideline, a geographical feature is any reasonably permanent or historic feature of the Earth, whether natural or artificial.
Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features)#Natural features says:
Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. This includes mountains, lakes, streams, islands, etc. The number of known sources should be considered to ensure there is enough verifiable content for an encyclopedic article. If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography. For example, a river island with no information available except name and location should probably be described in an article on the river.
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features), which says:
Notability on Wikipedia is an inclusion criterion based on the encyclopedic suitability of an article topic. Geographical features meeting Wikipedia's General notability guideline (GNG) are presumed, but not guaranteed, to be notable. Therefore, the notability of some geographical features (places, roadways, objects, etc.) may be called into question.

Sources
1. Hawker, Cathy (2010-10-27). "Paradise Opens Up: The Maldives is allowing foreigners to buy property on the 1,192 islands for the first time". Evening Standard. ProQuest 760082296.
  The article notes: "The first, 12 Blues, is on 10-acre Lundufushi island, 45 minutes by seaplane from the international airport in the capital Male, a crowded little town and home to a third of the island's 315,00 population -- historically fishermen -- with the rest spread over 1,192 small islands. The 12 Blues company plans an atmosphere of serenity and organic luxury when it builds 40 off-plan villas and an exclusive resort, due for completion by 2012. Buyers at 12 Blues must put their property into the rental pool for all but six weeks of the year. There will be 37 villas on stilts sitting in the clear, warm Indian Ocean. These homes will be large -- 2,316sq ft for Pounds 1.15 million -- and there will also be seven land villas for Pounds 1.4 million. Rental revenue will be divided in half with the owners. ... The Arabian-style villas are designed to resemble floating lanterns, with private pools overlooking a palm-fringed beach. Onsite facilities will include a serious spa, restaurants and a dive centre."
2. Latham, Laura (2011-10-28). "Selling Off Pieces of Island Paradise". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "The first company to introduce a residence option was 12 Blues in October 2010 on the island of Lundhufushi, 130 kilometers, or 80 miles, from the capital of Malé. Of the 40 villas planned, 10 already have been sold, and 10 more will be put on the market next year. The resort was designed by the Singapore company Eco.id, and is intended to include a Franklyn hotel, spa and a variety of restaurants and bars. Properties are priced from $2.3 million, or €1.7 million, and owners who want to put their homes into the resort’s rental pool will receive six weeks’ use per year and 50 percent of the net revenue."
3. "Grab a slice of idyllic island resort life". The Straits Times. 2010-10-12. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "A press statement from JLL yesterday said the 12 Blues Resort & Spa is the first hotel residences development in the Maldives to be made available for individual foreign ownership. The strata-titled development comprises 33 water villas and seven beach villas with prices starting from US$1.855 million each. Located in Raa Atoll in the Indian Ocean, 12 Blues is a 35-minute seaplane journey north of Male, the capital of the Maldives. Known by locals as Lundhufushi, the island is a 10 acre teardrop-shaped coral island with over two kilometres of untouched pristine beachfront."
4. "Join Branson and the Beckhams in the Maldives". Evening Standard. 2016-02-24. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "In almost all the islands, property is only available on short-term lease — currently a maximum of 50 years — and all building materials apart from sand and a little wood must be brought in from abroad. The only off-plan project there to date, 12 Blues, launched amid much fanfare in 2010 but even the country's president arriving to lay the first stone on the totally undeveloped Lundufushi island, failed to prevent the project sinking financially without trace."
5. Davies, Helen (2015-02-22). "The longest honeymoon ever: investing in the Maldives. Just the mention of the Indian Ocean archipelago is enough to inspire lust. Now exclusive resorts are allowing overseas buyers to snap up their very own piece of island paradise". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "There have been a few promised developments that failed to materialise — 12 Blues, for example, which was meant to be the first hotel-residence project open to individual foreign buyers — but this year there will be more bamboo scaffolding and boats piled with builders instead of fishermen landing on the sandy shores than ever before."
6. Hall, Zoe Dare (2011-11-13). "Come on in, the water's lovely. The Indian Ocean is an unspoilt alternative to the Caribbean, and a new hot spot for foreign buyers. Time to go island-hopping". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "On Lundhufushi, a tiny private island 40 minutes by plane from Malé, the 12 Blues Resort and Spa has striking circular water villas designed in contemporary Arab style."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow 12 Blues to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Comment - While as an island, it would pass WP:GEONATURAL, I'm not too sure if 12 Blues is the actual name of the island. It appears that it refers to a failed resort hotel project on that island, as per The Times article posted above. The actual island seems to be named Lundhufushi. Perhaps the page should be moved to Lundhufushi. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 18:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Soner Baskaya

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Fails to satisfy WP:NPROF. Very low h-index and no indication of WP:SIGCOV (alternative criteria when there's no indication of notability per WP:NPROF). TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Not my field but there are several fairly highly cited papers in GS[3] (201, 198, 116). Espresso Addict (talk) 23:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - not my field(s) but he's economics department chair at the university that is named after the guy who invented modern economics, and is well-cited. Bearian (talk) 03:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Being a department chair is not a criterion for WP:NACADEMIC, and the fact that the school is named after Adam Smith is a red herring. I don't see that he passes any other criterion; his H-index is indeed low for someone of his career level. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Amanpulo

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The resort which covers Pamalican island fails WP:GNG. Only sources are from travel guides. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Pamalican. I don't think it makes sense to have two separate articles about the resort and the island when they both occupy the same area. —seav (talk) 03:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Pamalican per the same reason as Seav's. Though it got me thinking, are both subjects (the resort and the island) notable enough to have an article? AstrooKai (Talk) 08:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The island itself meets WP:GEONATURAL. --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge parts worth merging, overlapping subjects with a stub each. CMD (talk) 10:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Pamalican per above. CruzRamiss2002 (talk) 12:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep The article has issues but the resort in its own right is notable. Among others, it won an award seven times in a row, is covered in trade publications (also this one), has been written about in lifestyle magazines (also this one), and was even listed in the Michelin Guide. Now I think we need to clearly delineate the two as the island itself is also notable, but let's not jump the gun here and presume the resort itself isn't notable when it is. The better question to ask is whether there should be one article or two. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 05:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There should be one article, the topics hugely overlap and have just a few paragraphs each. CMD (talk) 03:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let's not try and treat the articles as static, please. Granted they haven't been edited since this AfD started, but it's not like the articles can be expanded so as to justify the existence of two articles, no? --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 20:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing I said treats them as static. Anyone could expand any article at any time, and split a developed subarticle at any time. CMD (talk) 22:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue that in this case where there are two articles, if the intention is to develop separate articles when there are enough sources, why merge them in the first place? --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 04:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To provide a more complete and informative experience for readers now, instead of not doing this for no reason other than some uncommitted future hypothetical that could happen in that future anyway. CMD (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've found a large number of sources that discuss Amanpulo the resort. There is enough information for a standalone article about Amanpulo's history, accommodations, amenities, and activities. Amanpulo began its history in 1993.
The island of Pamalican has a long history before that. Its early history: "The island was discovered by accident twice – initially by the seafaring villagers of the neighbouring Manamoc Island, who used it in the 18th century as a market garden to grow coconuts and corn, returning year after year to tend their crops and collect turtle eggs. They named it Pamalican, meaning to return, or go back." It "was once an important stop on the spice trade route between China and Borneo, but later doomed to centuries of obscurity". It was a family-run coconut plantation until the early 1990s. There is likely enough information for two standalone articles. Cunard (talk) 09:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:GNG with sources presented by Sky Harbor. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. The fact that the resort is coterminous with the island is my concern. So it can be discussed in either of their talk pages. SBKSPP (talk)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Robles, Marissa (2008-11-29). "'Amanpulo had a spotlight over it!'". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Factiva AIWPHI0020081129e4bt00063.
  The article notes: "Before you start believing that the world spins in a hopeless whirl, think of Amanpulo. It is surely one adventure on your ‘101 Things to Do Before You Whine.' Experiencing this marvel of an island on the Sulu Sea, in the island group of Cuyo in Palawan, leaves one in a state of curious wonder, with nary a care for worrisome political and economic issues and petty personal upheavals. ... Consistent with all the Aman resorts worldwide, Amanpulo in Palawan embraces the cultural and natural landscapes it is set in. In the interiors, one notes the materials of clay, wood and bamboo. On the beach, the barbecue lighting uses baskets. The staff's uniform speaks of adapting to the culture, too. The marine sanctuary is pristine and free from garbage. The quality of the sand is consistent throughout the island of Pamalican, Amanpulo's home. Environment ranks high in Amanpulo's priorities. The vermi culture project, which recycles organic material into fertilizer, aims to give more jobs to residents of neighboring islands who produce fresh organic vegetables for guests. There's also the partnership with the Soriano Foundation in outreach programs on nearby Manamoc Island, where most of Amanpulo's workforce lives."
2. Lugo, Leotes Marie T. (2003-08-15). "Weekender - Travel & Tourism Ahhh... manpulo (a.k.a. lifestyle of the rich and famous)". BusinessWorld. Factiva BSWRLD0020030815dz8f0003h.
  The article notes: "I was dreaming and I didn't want to wake up! I was in Amanpulo - that super expensive high-end resort somewhere in Palawan that has hosted Hollywood stars, super models and the likes of the late John F. Kennedy, Jr. and Daryl Hannah, Robert de Niro and, if rumors were to be believed, Michael Jackson. It's a place I've only heard of when talking about the lifestyles of the rich and famous, which definitely is way out of my league, and actually stepping into the island seemed surreal. ... We made a brief stop in the clubhouse restaurant and bar, perhaps the heart of the resort. The clubhouse had an Oriental motif adorned by coconut shell tables, rattan chairs from Cebu and oriental wooden ornaments. It also houses the resort boutique and library, where guests can borrow books, magazines and even digital video discs. ... Amanpulo, consistent with its image as a private, secluded resort, only has 40 casitas in hillside and beach-side settings. Each casita can accommodate a maximum of three adults and two children below 12 years old. ... Most of the resort's guests are Europeans, Japanese and Hong Kong expatriates."
3. Matheson, Veronica (2005-06-12). "Luxuriate in Filipino island life". Sunday Herald Sun. p. 1. Factiva SUHERS0020050611e16c00084.
  The article notes: "Their sea "christening" is at Amanpulo (peaceful island), 300km south of the Philippines' capital, Manila, where guests -- no question you need to be wealthy to stay here -- have time for caring and sharing. ... The island is car-free, but each casita (bungalow) has a gas-powered golf cart for guests to move around the island. And while it is possible to circle the island by cart, most guests opt to explore via the beach, barefoot in the sand. ... Amanpulo, recently named the world's top luxury resort by a British travel guide, is one of the prized jewels in the Aman crown. ... Once a family-run coconut plantation, Pamalican Island was reborn as Amanpulo resort in 1994. The 40 casitas, in hillside and beachside settings, are modelled loosely on the Philippine bahay kubo (village home). Inside the casitas every attention is given to detail, from pebble-washed walls to coconut shell tables, rustic palm baskets, king-size beds and roomy marble bathrooms. Outdoor decks have cushioned sun lounges and hammocks swing from palm trees. ... And because of its remoteness, Amanpulo generates its own power, treats its own sewage, recycles scrap metal, creates compost for reforestation, has a desalination plant and an airfield."
4. Chua-Go, Ingrid (2010-04-04). "Amanpulo-heaven on earth". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Factiva AIWPHI0020100405e64400005.
  The article notes: "If this is the first time you've heard of Amanpulo (which I highly doubt), let me tell you that this world-class resort nestled in the secluded and private Pamalican Island, Palawan, is one of the tropical havens favored by Hollywood royalty.But don't expect to be bumping into them, though, as the very reason for their visiting the resort is Amanpulo's über-discreet policy toward its guests. Even at full occupancy, you will hardly bump into anyone. ... What I truly enjoyed about Amanpulo's dining experience is that you will often bump into the island's F&B director Harish Nair, who never fails to greet each diner to ask about the food. And for dinner, there's Lagoon Club located on the other side of the island, which serves Vietnamese food, and again Beach Club, which serves Spanish food. I highly recommend the paella and the fideua. If you want, you can also ask the island's restaurant to prepare you a beachside dinner complete with bonfire! ... You can also explore the island, which is what we decided to do the next day, after another snorkeling trip. A brief but leisurely 10-minute walk on the beach from my casita led me to the island's tip, where a sandbar stretched out into the crystal-clear waters. This sandbar would have been the most ideal place to get a nice tan and a refreshing swim during the earlier hours of the day."
5. Kurosawa, Susan (2010-08-06). "Amanpulo". Wish. The Australian. Factiva NLWISH0020100805e6860000k.
  The article notes: "This is Amanpulo, an exclusive resort on Pamalican Island in the southwest of The Philippines, part of the Cuyo group. Opened by Singapore-based Amanresorts group in 1993, everything here is about the water; the nearest snorkelling spot is so close that it's simply dubbed House Reef, there are picnic sites from which you can don snorkel gear and stride off into gardens of clams. At the southern tip there's a channel of water known as Shark's Playground but, as guests are calmly reassured, these are happy little reef sharks. Still, you might prefer to observe their sinister shapes from one of Amanpulo's boats, zooming over schools of batfish in protected waters. Complimentary aquatic activities include sailing, kayaking and windsurfing; on the easy-catch menu are snapper, grouper, wahoo, mackerel, sweetlip, bonito and (for near-instant sashimi) tuna. ... Everyone's talking about The go-ahead philosophy of Amanresorts. After a lull early last decade, the group is steaming ahead with openings, particularly in China and India. Amanpulo is not the most glamorous of the range but it's arguably one of the friendliest and most fun. The Filipino staff bring an air of fiesta to proceedings. But it all runs like clockwork, too - leave your golf buggy casually parked and when you return it will be precisely positioned, with replenished bottled water."
6. Hwang, You-mee (2004-07-09). "Do everything, or nothing at all: Island resort on Sulu Sea offers the ultimate in luxury". The Korea Herald. Factiva KORHER0020040709e0790000s.
  The article notes: "Welcome to Amanpulo, an exclusive resort that occupies the entire island. Once a family-run coconut plantation, the site was transformed into its present form in December 1993 by Amanresort, which operates similar resorts around the world. An assistant offers a cold towel so you can freshen up, and after a brief tour of the island in an open-sided golf cart you are shown to your "casita," or small house. The buggy is your means of transportation throughout your stay at the resort. You're given a turtle-shaped key holder that comes with a key to your house and another for the buggy, as well as a map of the island. There are 40 individual guest houses dotted throughout the island: 29 on the beach, seven on the hillside and four in treetops. Treetop and hillside accommodations give you a spectacular view of the island and the surrounding Sulu Sea, especially the two deluxe hillside cabins. ... Amanpulo also has more than a handful of great scuba diving spots for both novice and experienced divers. Equipment and lessons from skilled instructors are offered at the Dive Shop. Children ages 8 and up can also learn scuba diving in the pool. You can also walk around the island's perimeter, which takes about 90 minutes."
7. "King of your island". Mint. 2011-03-25. Factiva HNMINT0020110326e73p0002t.
  The article notes: "Home to Amanpulo, the Aman Resorts' lone foray in the Philippines, Pamalican Island is a private island 300km south-west of Manila. The location, in the Sulu Sea, was once an important stop on the spice trade route between China and Borneo, but later doomed to centuries of obscurity. Today, it is one of the most secluded luxury locations in Asia, and provides an otherworldly privacy worth flying halfway across the world for. The only way to get there is the Amanpulo's own turboprop. A hangar at Manila airport hides the Amanpulo's dedicated lounge, and the journey-and the attentive, invisible service one expects of a hotel of this calibre-begins there. Riding in the 19-seat plane across the seas to the Amanpulo's private airstrip, you get the sense upon landing on Pamalican Island that there will be nothing but sun, sea and pina coladas for as long as you're there. Instead of beach huts, your nights are spent in large casitas, modelled after local village homes, either right on the beach or perched among the trees on the hills. Each casitas comes with its own chef and maid to look after your culinary and other daily needs, and with a buggy so that you can explore the island."
8. Noone, Richard (2014-10-12). "Fantasy island a divine reality". Herald Sun. Archived from the original on 2024-12-30. Retrieved 2024-12-30.
  The article notes: "Operated by luxury group Aman Resorts, Amanpulo is on Pamalican Island, a relative speck in the Cuyo Archipelago of the Philippines. The island was discovered by accident twice – initially by the seafaring villagers of the neighbouring Manamoc Island, who used it in the 18th century as a market garden to grow coconuts and corn, returning year after year to tend their crops and collect turtle eggs. They named it Pamalican, meaning to return, or go back. In 1967, one of the Philippines’ wealthiest families, the Sorianos of San Miguel Brewery fame, discovered it while cruising aboard the motor yacht Seven Seas. ... The family partnered with Aman Resorts and the first villas opened to guests in 1993."
9. Nicholson, Sarah (2011-04-02). "In the Lap of Luxury". The Advertiser. ProQuest 859717468.
  The article notes: "I am staying at the Amanpulo resort on Pamalican, one of the 1768 islands in the undeveloped Palawan Provence, 350km south of Manila. ... Amanpulo, the boutique resort that occupies all of Pamalican Island, is a 60-minute charter flight from Manila, and a haven of tranquillity and barefoot luxury in the waters of the Sulu Sea. Unlike other upmarket resorts, where staff wear stuffy uniforms and are schooled to be invisible, Amanpulo is all casual elegance. The property has some captivating rough edges that make me feel like I have settled in and become part of island life rather than just another guest staying in a posh suite for a few days. ... Pamalican was home to a working coconut plantation as recently as the early 1990s, and 85 per cent of the staff come from the neighbouring island of Manamoc, rather than fancy hospitality schools in Manila."
10. Prieto-Valdes, Tessa (2005-09-18). "Blissful in Amanpulo". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Factiva AIWPHI0020050917e19i0000e.
  The article notes: "Amanpulo guests stay in spacious casitas, complete with a luxurious bath and dressing area. Nestled among tropical foliage, the casitas are patterned after the bahay kubo dwelling and were designed by architect Bobby Manosa. Each casita maintains a modern flair and is remarkably well-kept. Guests are also given a private buggy to explore the island. ... Now that my soon-to-be-wed friend Kris Aquino is a converted beach lover, I will suggest that she honeymoon with her beau James Yap in Amanpulo. The fact is that it is one of the best resorts in the world. While swimming in their pool, Dennis met a Scottish guy who said it was the most beautiful pool he had ever been in, bar none. Thinking that the Scot must have just arrived in Asia, Dennis asked him how he could make such a hyperbolic statement."
11. Radnor, Abigail (2012-12-08). "Six great island getaways for winter: Diego Della Valle has made millions from Tod's loafers. But can he cobble together the crumbling Coliseum?". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-12-30. Retrieved 2024-12-30.
  The article notes: "Set the scene inspired by native Filipino dwellings, it is all timber frames and rattan roofs, making it the epitome of fuss-free chic. So this one's a little rustic? Not quite. On swimming out to the floating raft bar you'll be greeted with divans, towels and calamansi juice. And the rooms? Not "rooms", casitas: small houses. Choose between a beach casita within stumbling distance of warm, lapping waves or a treetop casita with views of a tropical landscape."
12. Hryciw, Matt (2019-11-15). "The ultimate luxury retreat in the Philippines: A Philippine private-island paradise, Amanpulo is the ultimate tranquil treat, says Matt Hryciw". Evening Standard. Archived from the original on 2024-12-30. Retrieved 2024-12-30.
  The article notes: "This is where the use of superlatives to describe Amanpulo’s biggest asset seems unavoidable: if you’re a sun-worshipper or simply love floating in a crystal clear, shallow sea above schools of colourful fish all by yourself, this is unparalleled heaven. Guests at Amanpulo can choose from two types of accommodation. First there are the 42 private, stand-alone rooms like mine called ‘casitas’, which are either cleverly tucked behind the coconut palms along the beach or nestled into the island’s lush interior."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Amanpulo to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These very excerpts don't treat the topics as distinct. "Once a family-run coconut plantation, Pamalican Island was reborn as Amanpulo resort in 1994", "Welcome to Amanpulo, an exclusive resort that occupies the entire island. Once a family-run coconut plantation, the site was transformed into its present form in December 1993", "after a brief tour of the island in an open-sided golf cart you are shown to your "casita," or small house", "you get the sense upon landing on Pamalican Island that there will be nothing but sun, sea and pina coladas", "Guests are also given a private buggy to explore the island". The Noone, Richard excerpt is entirely about Pamalican Island, it's not even about the time period of the resort! CMD (talk) 09:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I provided more analysis here that there is enough coverage to have one article about the resort (1993–present) and one article about the island (when it was used as a spice trade route centuries ago, to the 18th century, to the present). There is so much coverage of Amanpulo that if both the resort (Amanpulo) and island (Pamalican) were merged to a single article, Amanpulo could be the right place to have all this information. Cunard (talk) 12:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I find it doubtful the resort on the island would take WP:NOPAGE title preference over the island itself, especially as the island maintains its current name. CMD (talk) 14:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The relevant guideline is Wikipedia:Article titles#Deciding on an article title and WP:COMMONNAME. It is possible that if there is a single article, the common name would be Amanpulo. Many sources focus on Amanpulo the resort rather than than Pamalican the island. It would require a survey of the literature to determine the right title. Cunard (talk) 14:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a misinterpretation of commonname. Overlapping topics will often have different common names. 14:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC) CMD (talk) 14:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: As the resort covers the entire island, it does seem reasonable, and there seems to be a rough consensus to merge, but I'm not sure I see a consensus as to which title the merged article should be at.
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Delete or merge I'm not sure this passes WP:NCORP. Anything important can be merged to the actual article on the island. SportingFlyer T·C 02:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Most vacationgoers have heard of "Amanpulo", but not "Pamalican"; most people may even think the name of the island per se is "Amanpulo". See page view stats, with Amanpulo leading 5:1. I'd even argue merge Pamalican to Amanpulo as per WP:GEONATURAL, as the island per se was not notable until the resort was built, or redirect Pamalican to Amanpulo. So yes, Amanpulo is notable, and very much so (denying this fact approaches Quiboloy levels of falsehoods LOL let's be real!), while you can argue Pamalican isn't. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Sky Harbor, Cunard and Howard the Duck. -Ian Lopez @ 10:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - I am leaning towards keeping this, but merging the island article into the resort; they are essentially a fork situation. A hotel or resort can be notable based upon reputable travel guides and reviews. FWIW, I have travel plans for Palawan for later this year, but to a different resort. Bearian (talk) 03:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Zaxploitation

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No indication of notability; only source is an IMDB article — Moriwen (talk) 17:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Exploitation film, if there is anything due here it can be built out there at first as a number of other exploitation subgeneras are. I don't see enough for a stand alone topic as of now, but significant coverage may exist in languages other than English. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Xenia Benivolski

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This art critic and writer does not appear notable. She has written a lot as a writer which is in the article but that is all. 🄻 🄰 16:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep The extant sources already demonstrate WP:GNG. Benivolski has been doing collaborations with one of the most significant galleries in the world and has coverage in multiple major publications. Frankly the article sources, as they exist currently, also seem to support notability under WP:NPROF criterion one. Simonm223 (talk) 19:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wahla

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This article should be a hoax because it might refer to the name of the original creator of the article, Shahid hayat wahla. It was originally moved to draft because it lacked sources then the original creator move back to mainspace. It has been previously deleted twice and this article is possibly made up. Vitaium (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as irredeemable gibberish with occasional semi- comprehensible digressions from the topic. Wikipedia does not need muck like this.TheLongTone (talk) 16:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Carson

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There have already been two deletion discussions about this article in the past, so I was initially hesitant to open this. However, since the last discussion in 2015, the article collapsed from a long-winded ramble about various concepts the subject discussed (cited largely to the subject himself or other self-published sources)[4] into what is now a stub.

I tried looking around for more sources to expand it, but I found little-to-no actual information about Carson as a person. What I did find were largely reviews and analyses of his main major work "Studies in Mutualist Economics", with only passing references to his other works without any real detail.

From what I've seen, there is very little to write about for a biographical article about the subject himself, so I think this might not pass the notability guidelines for people. I do think his work "Studies in Mutualist Economics" has received enough attention for its own article (per the notability guidelines on books), but this might be another case where an author is not independently notable of their single notable work. Grnrchst (talk) 15:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I simply do not see secondary coverage about him in a before search, and the keep rationales made in previous discussions don't actually convince me he's otherwise notable. SportingFlyer T·C 16:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Falken (bulletin board system)

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Fails WP: GNG. I could not find any sources to establish notability. This article was dePRODed without sourcing improvements. HyperAccelerated (talk) 14:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Hsinchu Toplus Lioneers head coaches

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This is a contested bold merge, so I am seeking an AfD consensus to redirect of this page to Hsinchu Toplus Lioneers#Head coaches. There is no independent secondary source coverage of this basketball team's head coaches as a subject, thus failing WP:NLIST, and the content is easily contained in the target article, thus failing the test for a standalone page under WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The articles of head coaches in NBA teams are still created for recording the coaches' record and achievement. Does these articles also need to coverage as a subject of these basketball teams articles? Or removing the subject of Hsinchu Toplus Lioneers#Head coaches and not deleting List of Hsinchu Toplus Lioneers head coaches will be the better way to record the information? 安狄 (talk) 16:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You've offered no evidence that this subject clears WP:NLIST. Wikipedia is not a place for recording the coaches' record and achievement since it is WP:NOTDATABASE. The only way this can be a standalone article is if there is significant coverage of these coaches as a group. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reinforcing what Dclemens said, emphasizing, Wikipedia is about being anclyclopedia, covering enclyclopedic topics via enclyclopedic articles. So creating 'record" of anything is not per se an objective not a rationale for the existence of an article. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 17:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete (or re-direct would also be OK) Does not meet wikipedia's requirements for existence of a separate article based on wp:notability, wp:not and list guidelines. I did a merge to the team article during NPP and it was reversed. I suggest a delete rather than a re-direct but a re-direct would also be OK. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 17:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fil-Products Group

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Non-notable corporation; fails WP:NCORP. Several source links are dead, but of those that are viewable and those I found in the WP:BEFORE search appear to be limited to WP:ORGTRIV and press releases; I didn't find WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No Notability established yet. There are not enough references for a single search query.

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EV Group

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Non-notable company; fails WP:NCORP. All sourcing is WP:ORGTRIV coverage of new facility openings, etc. ([5]); WP:USERGENERATED content ([6]); WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS ([7], [8], [9], [10]); the company's own website and/or press releases, and other non-independent sources ([11], [12], [13]); WP:PRSOURCE-driven coverage in WP:TRADES publications ([14], [15], [16]); and a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE document ([17]). One source does not mention the company at all ([18]). Nothing else qualifying came up in a WP:BEFORE search. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: To the closing admin, I have restructured the article entirely; check it before you go ahead and keep or delete it. Given the current structure, I believe the subjects meet the notability guidelines. Note: I'm no the initial editor, I just volunteered to improve it. If the resolution was to keep, kindly place an 'Improvement' tag on the article; otherwise, delete it. Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 17:07, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from nominator offering a brief analysis of the newly added sources: more WP:TRADES coverage based on press releases ([19], [20], [21], [22], [23]) and one actual press release ([24]). Still no WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS and thus no NCORP pass. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aria (Indian singer)

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Failed WP:GNG, WP:SINGER, WP:BANDMEMBER with no WP:SIGCOV for individual notability other than passing mentions from X:IN-related reportings including but not limited to her "about"-type reporting as part of X:IN's debut-related promotional reportings from WP:BEFORE. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 14:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lana (album)

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I'm afraid a simple talk page discussion won't do any good here. This is just a deluxe like any other special edition. It even helped the standard album back to #1. Yes, it is fairly discussed in RS because that's what happens when you tease new music. This is no different from Scarlet 2 Claude which is also fairly discussed. Trim and merge will do here. dxneo (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep By all accounts this passes WP:GNG; the reissue has been reviewed by Vulture, Rolling Stone, Variety, Pitchfork, etc. Apart from reviews, we have this critical commentary from Variety about its long series of delays. Elias 🦗🐜 ^{[Chat, they chattin', they chat]} 14:34, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I am undecided because there is indeed a precedent at Scarlet 2 Claude for merging the two versions together, but Lana is also receiving coverage as an independent new release. If this tactic (already advanced by Doja Cat and SZA) becomes a trend -- releasing an album's worth of new songs and saying it's a reissue of a previous album -- it may require a higher discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums about what constitutes a truly "new" album. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This meets the WP:NALBUM criteria 1 and 2, and there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article. Medxvo (talk) 14:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: As mentioned above, the reissue album meets the criteria for a standalone article. The coverage and reviews should be enough. And the comparison is WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 15:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Raja Raghuraj Singh

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Freedom activists are not inherently notable. The subject fails WP:ANYBIO, no indication of WP:SIGCOV or notable contributions to the independence movement. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 10:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Meets WP:NPOLITICIAN as a member of the United Provinces Legislative Council, a precursor to the modern-day Uttar Pradesh Legislative Council. From this PhD thesis, "Kiriti Vardhan is the scion of Mankapur royal estate, and he is the fifth-generation representative of a powerful family which had direct influence in the district’s politics even before independence. His great-great grandfather Raja Raghuraj Singh and great grandfather Raja Ambikeshwar Pratap Singh won elections for the provincial assembly (of the United Provinces) in 1920s and 1930s." [25] This article from the Pioneer Mail in 1923 seems to confirm that he was a member of the provincial legislature.[26] ⁂CountHacker (talk) 18:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would also point out that if the article is kept, it should be moved to Raghuraj Singh per WP:TITLESINTITLES. Raja seems to be his title as the Raja of Mankapur, not part of his actual name. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 04:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fantom (company)

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Non-notable small company. Fails WP:NORG and WP:GNG. The company is Irish and a WP:BEFORE search in several mainstream Irish news/media sources (like RTÉ, Irish Independent, TheJournal.ie, etc) returns nothing at all. I can find only one "opinion/comment/analysis" piece (effectively an interview with the founder) in The Irish Examiner in 2013. Which, in addition to failing WP:SIRS and WP:INTERVIEW/N, barely establishes that the company then had just 5 employees and some very moderate aspirations to gain a few dozen clients that year. One of the few/only pieces in The Irish Times is also quite short and simply deals with a funding round which valued the company at barely 1 million EUR. Again, hardly a massive indicator of notability/relevance. That the article was (clearly) created and expanded by SPA/COI profiles, with an overtly promotional intent, is also very difficult to overlook.... Guliolopez (talk) 12:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Not notable. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Varner

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Has a few sources [27], [28], what appears as an album review [29]. Article needs work, it only has two interviews now. Oaktree b (talk) 14:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in addition to the arguments for retention made by Oaktree b, I've added sources such as this source from The Star-Ledger in New Jersey and this one from The Seattle Times on the West Coast. Both of these are examples of the in-depth coverage in reliable and verifiable sources that are available in the press that are unequivocally about him and his accomplishments. The three-word assertion for deletion made by the nominator that the article "Fails WP:MUSICBIO" seems to have been made without having done the most basic effort to search for sourcing as specified by WP:BEFORE. The general notability guideline is clearly met based on his biography as a musician, his work and the ample reliable and verifiable sources that support that claim of notability. Alansohn (talk) 17:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jozef Brudňak

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Brudňak only played 21 football matches before disappearing in 2013. He later became a pastry chef, a job that is hardly notable in my opinion. Regarding secondary sources, I found SME but it doesn't seem to be enough. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Modular Operation Theatre

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Previously draftified, but was reverted by the creator. The entire content seems to be promotional and advertorial. Limited sources cited do not talk about the Modular Operation Theatre at all from my understanding of them. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 11:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Völkisch Ideology and the Roots of Nazism

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Redlinked author, no sources in article, I wasn't able to find any on Google. Prezbo (talk) 11:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weidner Communications

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This article is confusing. Is it about a marketing company, a machine translation software, or the brothers (who have last names spelled differently)? 🄻 🄰 11:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@लॉस एंजिल्स लेखक: I can't identify a deletion rationale in your nomination statement. Could you please provide one, else this nomination should be closed under WP:CSK#1. This appears to be a reasonably sourced article on a company, the machine translation software it produced, and its founders, which appear to be a reasonable set of topics to cover together. ~ A412 ^talk! 16:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted‎ per G11 by Jimfbleak. (non-admin closure) SK2242 (talk) 11:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nnanyelugo Martin Ike-Muonso

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The article does not meets the WP:BIO. The references provided are predominantly primary (WP:PRIMARY) or self-published (WP:SPS)[30][31] and lack substantial independent, reliable coverage as per WP:RS . But, the article's tone is promotional violating WP:PROMO and does not present a WP:NPOV. I noted his professional roles are notable but significant third-party recognition or impact is missing. Nxcrypto Message 10:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of artists from Northern Ireland nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards

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This seems to be a textbook case of a non-encyclopaedic cross-categorisation that does not warrant a stand-alone article. Similar case to List of Welsh artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards, List of Belgian artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards, List of Russian artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards and List of Finnish artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards. My arguments for deletion remain exactly the same as at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Welsh artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards. I don't see any WP:RS taking significant notice of the phenomenon of Northern Irish artists being nominated for the MTV Europe Music Awards. The sources recently added verify that D:Ream, Therapy? and Snow Patrol have had nominations but their 'Northern Irish-ness' is not a major talking point nor are they discussed as a group. It seems to be a list for the sake of having a list. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anastasia Gubanova (pair skater)

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Carly Henderson

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Fail WP:JOURNALIST and WP:ENT. No indication of WP:GNG. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Flow-through share

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Orphan (except for link from DAB), no refs, notability not established Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Enough coverage in books and research studies to pass WP:GNG: [32], [33], [34], [35], [36] (the studies can be accessed through the Wikipedia Library) Helpful Raccoon (talk) 10:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford

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I wanted to open this up for discussion, given I've also contributed to the article in question on multiple occasions previously. It's primarily down to the fact that most of the information in the article is duplicated within List of tallest buildings and structures in Greater Manchester, a ceremonial county of which Salford forms part. Added to this, there is no dedicated "List of tallest buildings and structures in Manchester", with a redirect taking readers to the Greater Manchester page. It is appreciated that Salford is a city in its own right and other UK cities have their own similar articles, but it does feel like a needless 'repeat' of a portion of the larger article for Greater Manchester. Very much welcome others' thoughts. Mmberney (talk) 08:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of tallest buildings and structures in Greater Manchester. Fotos and references and other pertinent info should be incorporated in target. Djflem (talk) 12:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ammu Ramachandran

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No lead roles in any of these notable films; fails WP:NACTOR, and the sources are blogs, unreliable, and PR material. Also fails WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 08:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wang Huidi

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jia Ziqi

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of cricket writers

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This list does nothing that Category:Cricket writers doesn't do as well, plus the category is much more complete. Furthermore, looking at Category:Lists of writers and Lists of writers, I don't see lists for any other sport. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I.m.o. since there is the Category:Cricket writers this list is not really necessary. Lotje (talk) 10:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiu (rapper)

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Procedural keep No rationale given; quick glance at sources finds significant coverage in at least a few of them, although I can't speak for the reliability. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep - I agree. The nominator should try again. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The rapper passes WP:MUSICBIO with many singles and one album (Vagabundo de Luxo) on the Portuguese Charts and having three certifications on Pro-Música Brasil, as mentioned in the article. On the subject of significant coverage, this source discusses Wiu's biography, including his early life and musical career. Cathodography (talk) 15:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Li Xuantong

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:26, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wang Xinkang

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kim Yu-seong

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kim Yu-jae

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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now she is the 2025 senior national bronze medalist Rainbowed-Sunned-Spirit (talk) 07:59, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mohammed Mahmudul Hassan

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Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:NPOL. A civil servants with a non notable position at Dhaka North City Corporation TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. The subject is essentially the city manager of a city of almost 6 million people (in United States math). Are there any precedents to guide us on any clear line for NPOL? Bearian (talk) 03:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bearian: The Dhaka North City Corporation is responsible for administering the northern part of Dhaka, not the entire city. Dhaka city has a total population of 10.2 million (as mentioned in the lead section of Dhaka). The city is governed by two mayors, representing the Dhaka North City Corporation and Dhaka South City Corporation. A civil servant serves as the city manager for each specific administrative area (i.e. north and south Dhaka). Assuming an equal distribution of the total population among the two parts, each part would have an estimated population of approximately 5.1 million. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 04:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete based on the information from TheBirdsShedTears. Bearian (talk) 06:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the person is a senior secretary of the government and director general of Local Government Division. He is maintaining two roles simultaneously in the government (with Dhaka North City Corporation administration) and it is clear that the subject is notable. Mehedi Abedin 09:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source? Also, the Ministry of Local Government, Rural Development and Co-operatives and the Local Government Division are two different entities. Local government div is responsible for the development and supporting local government bodies which still fails to satisfy WP:NPOL. Also, he is not secretary to the central/union ministry. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TheBirdsShedTears The sources on the article say that he is a secretary. Mehedi Abedin 08:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Inner West Bulls

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Redirect to NBL1 East as I am unable to find any WP:SIGCOV for this semi-pro basketball team. JTtheOG (talk) 06:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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New Jersey Transit Fairview Garage

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Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators. No indication of notability for this bus depot. The sources barely mention the subject and are thus not examples of in-depth coverage. Another option is to merge the info into a new article, as was suggested to the article creator here. JTtheOG (talk) 06:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to NJ Transit Bus Operations#Divisions, facilities, and operators. Djflem (talk) 07:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Madhu Azad

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Being a mayor does not pass WP:NPOL, Fails WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 05:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Delete : Lacks notability. Gauravs 51 (talk)
Comment: I would like clarification from the community about whether we have an arbitrary cutoff for automatic notability of mayors; in this case, of a city that is almost 900,000 people. Bearian (talk) 03:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : Being the first women Mayor of a major municipal corporation (though a reserved seat), she got good coverage and also during her stint as mayor... I feel, she passes general notability criteria. I am adding some more references. Davidindia (talk) 17:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per WP:HEY. I don't see any discussion on bright line tests, but I do see some improvement in the article. Bearian (talk) 02:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete: I have concerns about the sources because most of them fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Also, WP:NPOL does not mention mayors, so the subject does not have automatic notability.--DesiMoore (talk) 16:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ram Krishna Bantawa

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Doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR and WP:SIGCOV as per Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!}. Rahmatula786 (talk) 05:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Rahmatula786,

I hope this message finds you well.

Thank you for raising concerns about the article on Ram Krishna Bantawa. I firmly believe the article meets the requirements outlined in Wikipedia’s WP:NAUTHOR and WP:SIGCOV guidelines. Below is an explanation supporting this assertion:

Notability as an Author (WP:NAUTHOR):

Ram Krishna Bantawa is a recognized author and lyricist in Nepali literature. He is known for his novel Saghan Tuwanlo (Shrill Mist) and novel Amalai Chithi (Letter to Mother-whose English translation is forthcoming.) His work has made a significant cultural impact, particularly within the Nepali community.
His lyrics and songs are available on platforms such as YouTube.
Saghan Tuwanlo is included in the curriculum of Tribhuvan University, highlighting its academic and cultural significance.His novels address meaningful societal issues such as women’s rights, untouchability, and Sati Pratha (the practice of widow immolation), further emphasizing his contributions to literature and social discourse.

Significant Coverage (WP:SIGCOV):

Independent and reliable media outlets, including Kantipur, Annapurna Post, and various Hong Kong-based Nepali newspapers, have provided coverage of Bantawa’s work. This demonstrates his influence in Nepali literature and music.
He has been featured in interviews and podcasts that delve into his life, literary contributions, and societal impact, providing further evidence of significant independent coverage.
Bantawa has received several awards and certificates from reputable organizations, including:Nepalese Literary Academy Hong Kong , Heavenly Path Hong Kong , Charu Sahitya Pratisthan , Hong Kong Nepalese Federation , Lyricist Association of Nepal

The article references independent and verifiable sources that discuss Ram Krishna Bantawa’s work in detail. Taken collectively, these factors satisfy the standards for inclusion in Wikipedia under WP:NAUTHOR and WP:SIGCOV.

If additional information or sources are required to further support this assertion and enhance the article, I would be happy to assist.

Best regards, Rasilshrestha (talk) 09:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I feel you know the person very well so you are aware of so many information. When i search on internet , I hardly find anything of significance covered in reputable media outlet about him .

regarding references, plz go through all the references, and let me know if a single source in reputable Nepali media from NPOV meeting WP criteria. If your have such sources plz put it here other than what you have kept in references. Plz note that sources in reference are not of significance. Rahmatula786 (talk) 10:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Rahmatula786,

Thank you for your message. I want to clarify that I do not personally know the person. The information I’ve provided is based solely on my research.

I understand your concerns regarding the importance of meeting Wikipedia's notability criteria. Unfortunately, there is limited online information due to the lack of archived articles in Nepali media. However, I have collected pictures of old newspaper articles about the author, including coverage from Nepali Hong Kong newspapers during a book launch press meet.

I believe the article is written from a neutral point of view. While I cannot attach the offline sources here, I’d be happy to share them via email. Additionally, I can provide relevant YouTube(https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ram+Krishna+Bantawa) links of his Songs, Interviews. Please let me know how you’d like to proceed.

I look forward to your guidance and support, as I am currently gathering resources and information for my next article of Nepali Singer "Kuma Sagar" . Your insights will be invaluable in helping me refine my work. Please let me know how best to proceed.

Best Regards, Rasilshrestha (talk) 07:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia's guidelines, contributors are discouraged from writing about individuals they personally know to maintain neutrality and avoid conflicts of interest. I can assure you that I have no personal connection with, nor do I know, the author.

In my case, I refrained from including details about the author's awards and certificates, as I was unsure about their accuracy and could not verify them through reliable sources all i had were photographs of certificates and some mentions in newspapers. However, I conducted thorough research and included information about the author's books, song lyrics, and album, as these are well-documented and publicly available.

I can provide you with ISBN of the books they were published through Sajha Publications and ASIA 2000 Ltd. Also you can search in youtube for his songs and interviews. I can additionally provide you with offline sources(Newspaper Articles, Magazines) relating to the author. Rasilshrestha (talk) 15:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - there appears to be some sourcing not available easily online (the "surface" of the Internet). I'm going for a dive. Bearian (talk) 03:40, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I searched under three different names for this author and his book, Shrill Mist. I also reached out to a Nepalese friend. I've come up with zero reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 02:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,

Thank you for letting me know.I am actively working on gathering reliable links and additional information to support it. I’ll share them in refrence of the article.

The reason your friend might not have found information about the novel could be because it is an older work, first published in 2008. The author is not as widely recognized as prominent Nepali literary figures like Parijat, Laxmi Prasad Devkota, or Bhanubhakta Acharya, whose biographies are included in school curriculum. Additionally, the novel hasn’t been published online, limiting its accessibility to a broader audience. However, I’ve heard that the author’s new book is being published or translated into English, which might bring more attention to their work.

It’s also worth noting that the author has spent a significant amount of time outside Nepal, particularly in Hong Kong. If you search for his name on YouTube, you’ll find his songs, which might provide some additional context.

For now, I can provide the ISBN number of the book or any other available details. I’m actively working on finding more reliable sources and digging through news archives to provide further information Rasilshrestha (talk) 03:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello.

I have posted the photos of news archive i have clicked (Ram Krishna Bantawa News Articles : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive) in archive.org Rasilshrestha (talk) 17:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have added the link to external site as Ram Krishna Bantawa News Archive. Rasilshrestha (talk) 18:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lily Konigsberg

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Non-notable musician. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 05:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Widespread coverage in major music journalism outlets. Meets GNG. Thriley (talk) 05:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vivo X30

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No shown notability. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 05:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ʾUlu al-ʿAzm

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Very short article which could be merged into prophets in Islam. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 05:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of characters and names mentioned in the Quran#ʾUlu al-ʿAzm: and per se, the term may not necessarily mean the high ranking prophets - see the meaning of the term, which perhaps might merit an entry on Wikitionary. Redirects are cheap and since the term is mentioned at the target, a redirect might work. _Regards,Aafi ^(talk) 06:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral: I was pinged as the "creator" of the page, but really my contribution was just to fix up some manual-page-move snafu; the page creator was @Therealbey:, I think. See User talk:Therealbey#Ulu_al-ʿAzm. I agree that the standalone page is basically redundant with the place it used to redirect to: List of characters and names mentioned in the Quran#ʾUlu al-ʿAzm. I'm generally sympathetic to the idea that "if you build it, they will come" (I see nothing wrong with Therealbey's splitting out this section into its own page so there's a place to hang more in-depth coverage); but I agree that no in-depth coverage has materialized in the past couple months, so maybe that's a reason to turn the page back into a redirect. Doesn't matter to me. ... +1 for adding a Wiktionary entry, if a WP:RS can be found. But note that Wiktionary tends not to accept Romanizations as entries; and wikt:أُولُو ٱلْعَزْم would be of little use to someone googling the phrase "ulu al-azm." --Quuxplusone (talk) 14:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emuoboh Gbagi

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Being a son of a minister, Special Adviser, executive assistant to Governor on any matters or to run for an unsuccessful political election do not pass the criteria for politicians. All the sources too fail WP:GNG and WP: SIGCOV cannot be established. Ibjaja055 (talk) 05:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Obviously fails WP:NPOL, and WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO is not met. We don’t curate articles on topics who unsuccessfully ran for an Assembly seat, who is a special adviser, or who is a businessman who is doing nothing but his business. These pieces of are, of course, the usual opinionated and dependent pieces that lacks the substantial coverage we require to pass WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sei Kawahara

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep Search in Japanese throws up articles referencing him. Several are interviews, but these were independent mentions, including one long profile piece[37] and a less thorough piece here where he is mentioned as part of a team[38] Enough coverage to prove notability, with likely other Japanese sources if I search further. Absurdum4242 (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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William Lee Neal

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No WP:SIGCOV, does not meet WP:PERP. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 04:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So how do I begin this? Just reply here? Here's what I know about the case. Colorado newspapers covered it extensively, romanticizing the coverage. Crime fiction shows constantly derived some of their criminal from Neal, and now there's even a book on his case. Mark Pautler's moves to impersonate a defense attorney is heavily recognized across law schools. I put the focal point on Neal because the murders and rape got more coverage, while also alluding to the significance of Pautler's ethics breach and informing how Neal gained reignited attention on crime fiction without openly admitting he was the inspiration ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 04:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ibidapo Lawal

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Out of the 35 sources used in this article, only this appears to be GNG worthy. The rest are either about his company or press releases. Ibjaja055 (talk) 04:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Elvis Abuyere

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Fails WP:GNG. All the sources are either about his company or press releases. The article was WP: REFBOMB to confer Notability and yet not notable. All the awards too are run-of-the-mills Ibjaja055 (talk) 04:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Break a Spell

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Fails GNG and WP:NMG, recommend redirect to Mami_Kawada#2013–16:_Parablepsia Emm90 (talk) 03:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Métier

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Fails to demonstrate notability under WP:NCORP. Available references mostly discuss product launches, no significant coverage of the company itself and the product themselves do not appear independently notable. Brandon (talk) 03:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anne Pincus

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I don't believe she meets WP:ARTIST. Could not find coverage in google news or books. The awards do not appear major (and not reported in press). She is not part of a permanent collection of notable galleries. LibStar (talk) 03:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Dmytro Shestakov

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Purely promotional Amigao (talk) 03:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I respectfully disagree with the characterization of "purely promotional" for these reasons:

1. Source Quality and Independence:

- All major claims are supported by exclusively independent, third-party sources without any references to personal websites, blogs or current company materials

- Coverage comes from established media outlets (Forbes, Business Insider, Sifted EU)

- Academic work is verified through institutional repositories and peer-reviewed journals

- Professional roles are documented by the organizations themselves (NATO DIANA, DARPA, Ukrainian Startup Fund)

2. Notable Impact and Recognition:

- The article documents verifiable achievements rather than promotional claims

- Leadership roles influenced significant national initiatives (Energy Efficiency Fund, defense innovation)

- Academic contributions include peer-reviewed research and a scholarly book published by Columbia University Press

- Recognition comes from established institutions rather than self-promotion

3. Public Interest:

- Work spans multiple fields of public significance (defense innovation, energy efficiency, academic research)

- Contributions to national and international organizations demonstrate broader impact

- Innovations in blockchain technology and research integrity have wider societal implications

4. Article Tone and Sources:

- Content focuses on factual information and verifiable accomplishments

- Claims are consistently supported by reliable third-party citations

- The article deliberately avoids any promotional materials, personal blogs, or current company websites

- Language maintains Wikipedia's neutral point of view and encyclopedic standards

These elements suggest the article serves an encyclopedic purpose supported entirely by independent sources rather than promotional content. Dmytroshestakov (talk) 07:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Considering my comments and the links provided below.

Repetitive filibuster

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@Amigao Respectfully, let me disagree with you.

1. According to the Deletion Policy, namely the Reasons for Deletion List and the criteria displayed therein, the article is not promotional in nature. The article does not contain announcements and links to products and services for sale. The article and the data posted in it contain relevant or encyclopedic content, which is verified by the number of valid links.

I would also like to return with your permission if you consider this statement to be PR or your own promotion.

2. The article is written from a Neutral Point of View, which means representing fairly, proportionately.

The article is written in an unbiased manner with no accents indicating promotion. The article contains references to documented facts indicating the neutrality of the position. For example, references to publications in respected media and references to scientific papers in scientific journals.

3. The credibility of the facts and statements provided in the article are Verifiable, as is also evidenced by the references to sources.

4. The material provided, the facts, statements and ideas placed in it are referenced to a Reliable Published Source.

5. The writing style is written in a neutral tone with balance (Biographies_of_living_persons):

The article is written without understatement or exaggeration. Exaggeration could indicate a desire to create a promotional environment.

The article is written in an unbiased manner and does not contain praise or flattering comments. Михайло Зеленко (talk) 11:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I must strongly disagree with the assessment of "total failure" and would like to address this with specific reference to Wikipedia policies:

1. Wikipedia's Notability Guidelines WP:N:

- The subject meets WP:BIO criteria through sustained coverage in reliable sources

- Satisfies WP:ACADEMIC through scholarly work and academic positions

- Fulfills WP:BIZ through significant business leadership roles

- Independent coverage in major publications (Forbes, Business Insider, Sifted EU) meets WP:GNG

2. Reliable Sources (WP:RS):

- Academic sources: Columbia University Press publication, peer-reviewed journals

- International media: Forbes, Business Insider, multiple industry publications

- Institutional verification: NATO DIANA, Ukrainian government, UNDP

- All sources are independent third-party coverage, meeting WP:RS standards

3. Neutral Point of View WP:NPOV:

- Article presents verifiable facts without promotional language

- Claims are consistently supported by independent sources

- No personal blogs, company websites, or self-published material used

- Follows Wikipedia's due weight policy in coverage

4. Significance WP:SIGCOV:

- International impact through NATO and DARPA-related work

- National-level contributions (Energy Efficiency Fund, defense innovation)

- Academic significance (dual PhDs, Columbia University Press publication)

- Multiple independent recognitions and leadership positions

Summary of Alignment:

The article fully complies with Wikipedia's core content policies:

- Notability WP:N: Multiple criteria met through independent coverage

- Verifiability WP:V: All claims supported by reliable sources

- Neutral Point of View WP:NPOV: Factual presentation without promotion

- No Original Research WP:NOR: All content based on published sources

The subject demonstrates clear significance in multiple fields, with sustained coverage from reliable sources, making it a valuable addition to Wikipedia's knowledge base. Dmytroshestakov (talk) 12:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ - As someone familiar with the subject, I should disclose that I'm commenting on my own biography. However, I believe the article meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for multiple reasons:
Second keep from same editor struck

1. Significant institutional roles: - Expert at NATO's Defense Innovation Accelerator (DIANA) - Established DARPA-modeled innovation unit in collaboration with former DARPA Director - Led $1 billion Energy Efficiency Fund of Ukraine strategy implementation - Expert Council Member at BRAVE1 defense tech accelerator - Expert at Ukrainian Startup Fund (largest pre-seed investor in Eastern Europe) - Professor at Kyiv-Mohyla Academy - CEO of Research Integrity Chain Ltd

2. Academic credentials and publications: - Published book with Columbia University Press (2024) with foreword by former DARPA Director - Dual PhDs in Finance and Economics - Multiple peer-reviewed publications indexed in academic databases

3. Independent media coverage: - Sifted EU coverage of university spinout fund work - Forbes coverage of cryptocurrency exchange work - Business Insider coverage of Hacken Ecosystem - Multiple other independent media sources

4. Leadership in major organizations: - Director of Innovation at Ukrainian Defense Concern - Advisory roles with UNDP and Ukrainian government

These credentials are verified through independent sources cited in the article. Dmytroshestakov (talk) 07:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Additional notable aspects worth considering:

1. The subject has demonstrated sustained impact in multiple fields: - Technology (blockchain, scientific research protection) - Academia (finance, innovation) - Public sector (defense innovation, energy efficiency)

2. Received recognition through: - EB1-A visa for extraordinary ability - Excellence in Leadership Award from London Business School - Multiple academic honors

All achievements are supported by reliable third-party sources as referenced in the article. Dmytroshestakov (talk) 07:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to point out that all major claims in the article are supported by independent reliable sources, including:

- Academic publications verified through institutional repositories - Media coverage from established outlets - Professional roles confirmed through organizational websites - Awards and recognition documented by awarding institutions

This meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability and verifiability. Dmytroshestakov (talk) 07:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Total failure to pass WP:Prof. Xxanthippe (talk) 09:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

More repetitive filibuster

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- I must strongly disagree with the assessment of "total failure" and would like to address this with specific reference to Wikipedia policies:
1. Wikipedia's Notability Guidelines (WP:N):

- The subject meets WP:BIO criteria through sustained coverage in reliable sources

- Satisfies WP:ACADEMIC through scholarly work and academic positions

- Fulfills WP:BIZ through significant business leadership roles

- Independent coverage in major publications (Forbes, Business Insider, Sifted EU) meets WP:GNG

2. Reliable Sources (WP:RS):

- Academic sources: Columbia University Press publication, peer-reviewed journals

- International media: Forbes, Business Insider, multiple industry publications

- Institutional verification: NATO DIANA, Ukrainian government, UNDP

- All sources are independent third-party coverage, meeting WP:RS standards

3. Neutral Point of View (WP:NPOV):

- Article presents verifiable facts without promotional language

- Claims are consistently supported by independent sources

- No personal blogs, company websites, or self-published material used

- Follows Wikipedia's due weight policy in coverage

4. Significance (WP:SIGCOV):

- International impact through NATO and DARPA-related work

- National-level contributions (Energy Efficiency Fund, defense innovation)

- Academic significance (dual PhDs, Columbia University Press publication)

- Multiple independent recognitions and leadership positions

Summary of Alignment:

The article fully complies with Wikipedia's core content policies:

- Notability (WP:N): Multiple criteria met through independent coverage

- Verifiability (WP:V): All claims supported by reliable sources

- Neutral Point of View (WP:NPOV): Factual presentation without promotion

- No Original Research (WP:NOR): All content based on published sources
The subject demonstrates clear significance in multiple fields, with sustained coverage from reliable sources, making it a valuable addition to Wikipedia's knowledge base. Dmytroshestakov (talk) 12:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I must strongly disagree with the assessment of "total failure" and would like to address this with specific reference to Wikipedia policies:
1. Wikipedia's Notability Guidelines WP:N:

- The subject meets WP:BIO criteria through sustained coverage in reliable sources

- Satisfies WP:ACADEMIC through scholarly work and academic positions

- Fulfills WP:BIZ through significant business leadership roles

- Independent coverage in major publications (Forbes, Business Insider, Sifted EU) meets WP:GNG

2. Reliable Sources (WP:RS):

- Academic sources: Columbia University Press publication, peer-reviewed journals

- International media: Forbes, Business Insider, multiple industry publications

- Institutional verification: NATO DIANA, Ukrainian government, UNDP

- All sources are independent third-party coverage, meeting WP:RS standards

3. Neutral Point of View WP:NPOV:

- Article presents verifiable facts without promotional language

- Claims are consistently supported by independent sources

- No personal blogs, company websites, or self-published material used

- Follows Wikipedia's due weight policy in coverage

4. Significance WP:SIGCOV:

- International impact through NATO and DARPA-related work

- National-level contributions (Energy Efficiency Fund, defense innovation)

- Academic significance (dual PhDs, Columbia University Press publication)

- Multiple independent recognitions and leadership positions

Summary of Alignment:

The article fully complies with Wikipedia's core content policies:

- Notability WP:N: Multiple criteria met through independent coverage

- Verifiability WP:V: All claims supported by reliable sources

- Neutral Point of View WP:NPOV: Factual presentation without promotion

- No Original Research WP:NOR: All content based on published sources
The subject demonstrates clear significance in multiple fields, with sustained coverage from reliable sources, making it a valuable addition to Wikipedia's knowledge base. Dmytroshestakov (talk) 12:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~Keep~~ - Respectfully, I disagree with the assessment of "total failure to pass WP:Prof".
  Struck out as third keep from same editor
The subject meets multiple specific criteria under WP:Prof:

1. “Academic Position and Publications”:

- Tenured Professor of Finance at Kyiv-Mohyla Academy

- Published scholarly book with Columbia University Press (2024)

- Multiple peer-reviewed publications indexed in academic databases

- Research cited in Harvard Library

2. "Alternative Means" - Significant Recognition:

- Expert at NATO's Defense Innovation Accelerator (DIANA)

- Established DARPA-modeled innovation unit with former DARPA Director Anthony J. Tether

- Led $1 billion national Energy Efficiency Fund strategy

- Expert Council Member at BRAVE1 defense tech accelerator

3. “Widely Cited Work”:

- Research published in multiple peer-reviewed journals

- Citations in Business-Inform

- Publications in Journal of Economics and Management Sciences

- Work referenced in international academic databases

4. "Impact Within Field":

- Book foreword by former DARPA Director demonstrates field recognition

- Multiple research grants for innovative projects

- Academic leadership positions at established institutions

- International conference presentations and scholarly contributions

5. Distinguished Academic Awards:

- Excellence in Leadership Award from London Business School

- Leadership Scholarship Award from Kyiv-Mohyla Business School

- Recognition for scholarly contributions to innovation and technology

- EB1-A visa granted for "extraordinary ability" in academic field

Each criterion is supported by independent, reliable sources as cited in the article.

If the arguments presented do not answer your comment - please elaborate by referring to specific Wiki terms and policies. Thank you! Михайло Зеленко (talk) 12:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~100% KEEP.~~ Dmytroshestakov (talk) 12:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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People are not going to take the egregious AI use seriously in this discussion. Geschichte (talk) 18:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV. The most robust source here is the Financial Times, but it does not address the subject directly or in detail.--DesiMoore (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Genlin

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Highly promotional and of very questionable notability over a WP:SUSTAINED period. Amigao (talk) 03:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Agree that the article as written seems quite promotional in tone, and it seems there might possible be conflict on interest concerns, but those are both things to be fixed through editing, not AfD nominations. If you want to go through and reword all the promotional parts, have at it. There seems to be more than enough coverage to establish notability though (some sources aren’t great, but there are enough that are to establish notability). As for WP:SUSTAINED arguments… I see sources from 2016 - 2024 so I can’t see how it applies here? Absurdum4242 (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Malo Latinois

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Non-notable poker player; finished ninth in a world championship. No WP:SIGCOV. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 03:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This still fails WP:SPORTCRIT based on my previous nomination. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - non-notable, no WP:SIGCOV. (And I don't get what the creator is doing with those section headings!) Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of universities with BDSM clubs

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Fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:LISTCRITERIA - this is a directory of universities with a specific type of club with no encyclopedic merit past that the club exists. We could perhaps merge the lead into the main article (BDSM). ~ Matthewrb ^{Let's connect · Here to help} 16:04, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, no merge/redirect. This is simply something that we shouldn't be cataloging here and is certainly not for a general reading audience or anyone actually attending a school. Nate • (chatter) 17:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Plenty of pages here aren't written for a "general reading audience", whatever that might be; the people joining these clubs are attending schools; Wikipedia is not censored. XOR'easter (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:NLIST due to multiple sources (starting with the first three currently given in the article) discussing the set as a set. XOR'easter (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The sources alluded to immediately above might justify an article for the overarching topic of BDSM clubs at universities, but not a directory (WP:NOTDIR) of universities that happen to have one at the moment (or ever?). WP:IINFO applies here as well -- even in such a hypothetical article, I'd argue against the inclusion of such a listing within it. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 23:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's "indiscriminate" about this list? It's not a list of all student groups of all types. WP:NOTDIR points to WP:LISTCRITERIA, which is an easy standard to meet here. XOR'easter (talk) 01:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources. As explained in § Encyclopedic content above, merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia." This doesn't do that, nor is there any particular way that could be done here. The fact that random college X has random student club Y isn't noteworthy. Again, notability of an overall topic is not an automatic license to compile a list of every single example that can be found. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 01:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree that the sources could justify an article about BDSM at universities. My problem with this list is that student clubs are so temporary and informal that it seems impossible to produce a useful encyclopedic list of universities that "have a BDSM club" in any real sense. The sources in this list range from very credible (e.g. Columbia University) all the way to the many entries that may well have been jokes (universities often make it really, really easy to 'register' a club!), or that appeared in a student media outlet or directory years ago and probably didn't exist for long. One citation is a full twenty years old - surely it's doubtful whether that club still exists? And several entries seem to be for one-off events rather than actual clubs. I think the nature of student clubs just makes it impossible to have a verifiable, objective inclusion criteria for whether a given university "has a BDSM club" in any meaningful sense. Does the club have to have members? Does it have to hold actual events? Does it be more than one person's short term project? At the moment this is really just a list of trivia about universities where something vaguely BDSM-related has ever been reported, not a verifiable list of universities per WP:LISTCRITERIA where you would actually find a BDSM club. MCE89 (talk) 09:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:NLIST, like List of countries with McDonald's restaurants or List of typefaces included with macOS does. I Agree with MCE89, that the criteria is a bit vague and should be defined better, but I think that is possible. In opposite to List of chemical compounds with unusual names having a BDSM club is objectively check-able by specified criteria. Nico Düsing (talk) 19:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just because WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, doesn't mean this one should too. The McDonald's list is...middling, because there's at least some background info along with the list entries, but the primary sourcing to the company itself is troubling. It would be better off in prose about the company's activities around the world generally. The typeface list is terrible and I would strongly argue for its deletion as well. You're merely stating that it passes NLIST without really explaining why, or addressing the concerns about NOTDIR, IINFO, etc. that have been raised. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists, which says, "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list." I will show below that "universities with BDSM clubs" has been treated as "a group or set by independent reliable sources".

Sources
1. Johnson, M. Alex (2012-11-30). "50 Grades of Grey: Harvard becomes latest college to accept BDSM club". NBC News. Archived from the original on 2025-01-06. Retrieved 2025-01-06.
  The article notes: "While Harvard's club drew widespread attention this week, it's far from the only BDSM club officially recognized by, or at least tolerated at, U.S. colleges. ... At the University of Minnesota, Kinky U is Student Organization No. 2370. ... At Tufts University in Medford, Mass., Tufts Kink started meeting this semester. ... There's no national registry of campus BDSM groups, but consensus is that the oldest is at Columbia University, in New York, where Conversio Virium meets on campus every Monday night at 9. ... The point is to "raise general awareness of kink and to promote acceptance and understanding of BDSM," according to the bylaws of Risk-Aware Consensual Kink, or RACK, at the University of Chicago."
2. Grasgreen, Allie (2012-12-04). "Fifty Shades of Crimson: Harvard is just the latest campus to sanction a kinky sex club, which students and experts say is a healthy and positive educational tool". Inside Higher Ed. Archived from the original on 2025-01-06. Retrieved 2025-01-06.
  The article notes: "For all the ruckus it’s causing, you’d think the new BDSM club at Harvard University was actually a new idea -- and a controversial one, at that. Not so. A lot of people seemed taken aback by last week’s widely reported news that – gasp – Ivy League students like kinky sex, too. But clubs for students interested in BDSM – short for bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, and sadism and masochism – have been around for quite some time, at least on a handful of campuses (including Cornell, Tufts and Yale Universities). And sex educators say that’s a good thing."
3. White, Rachel R. (2012-11-16). "The Story of 'No': S&M Sex Clubs Sprout Up on Ivy Campuses, and Coercion Becomes an Issue". The New York Observer. Archived from the original on 2025-01-06. Retrieved 2025-01-06.
  The article notes: "The popularity of 50 Shades of Grey has accelerated a mainstreaming of the BDSM subculture already underway—the initials stand for bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism—and the trend has been especially pronounced in our more elite institutions of higher learning. Columbia has a BDSM group. So do Tufts, MIT, Yale and the University of Chicago."
4. Křivánková, Lucie (2024). BDSM Communities in Central Europe: Societal Perspectives. Cham: Springer Nature. p. 159. ISBN 978-3-031-75618-4. Retrieved 2025-01-06 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "The interest of university students in activities related to alternative sexual practices is also evident from the increasing number of official events at universities in the USA and even the establishment of clubs dedicated to BDSM and other sexual activities under the auspices of universities such as the University of Columbia, University of Chicago and Vassar College (Crocker, 2012). In Europe, academic and university activities devoted to BDSM can be found, for instance, in Ghent University (2020) in Belgium and the University of Helsinki in Finland (2020)."
5. Coslor, Erica; Crawford, Brett; Brents, Barbara (2017-08-01). "Whips, Chains and Books on Campus: How Organizations Legitimate Their Stigmatized Practices". Academy of Management Proceedings. 2017 (1). doi:10.5465/AMBPP.2017.12142abstract. Archived from the original on 2025-01-06. Retrieved 2025-01-06.
  The study notes: "We examine the intersection of core stigma and strategies in emergent, purpose-driven organizations through the provocative case of official university student organizations focused on kink and kinky sexuality."
6. Meeker, Carolyn (2011). "Bondage and Discipline, Dominance and Submission, and Sadism and Masochism (BDSM) Identity Development". Proceedings of the Tenth Annual College of Education & GSN Research Conference. Florida International University. p. 158. Archived from the original on 2025-01-06. Retrieved 2025-01-06.
  The article notes: "Iowa State University Cuffs is an educational group through which students learn about BDSM and safe, consensual, and non-exploitative human sexuality. Their educational topics include how to safely meet a play partner; bondage; negotiating a scene; and preventing sexual assault (CUFFS, 2010). Risk-Aware Consensual Kink (RACK) is the University of Chicago BDSM club. As a registered student organization, RACK raises awareness about kink and provides resources to interested students (RACK, 2010). Though such groups seem to be safe forums in which students choose to explore and develop their identities, not all colleges have similar groups."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the subject to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 13:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The list can be improved by removing entries that are not sourced to reliable sources. The list can be improved by modifying the inclusion criteria to be "former and current" clubs so that entries can remain even when the clubs no longer exist. The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says, If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required says, Perfection is not required: Wikipedia is a work in progress. Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome. Cunard (talk) 13:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of these sources addresses the concerns raised or demonstrates notability sufficient for creating such a list, rather than for general topic itself. Also, please stop spamming walls of text into deletion discussions, as it's generally disruptive. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Amaire Johnson

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Another case of a songwriter with prolific credits with notable musicians, but who has received little to no coverage of their own. In this case, there is that Visionary Artist Magazine (source I've never heard of and cannot speak to its reliability) piece, though I can only see the first paragraph of it for some reason. But that alone is not a sufficient amount of coverage, and the rest is just Johnson's name being brought up in the context of credits on other artists' songs without any in-depth discussion of Johnson's contributions. None of this applies to NBAND's standards. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 13:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Associated with major acts, but nothing strictly about this individual. The NPR and CBC articles are about different people. I'm not seeing enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the "different people" the NPR and CBC articles discuss are the two acts that employ Amaire Johnson as a music director: rappers Big Sean and Ab-soul. The CBC article confirms that Amaire was signed to Big Sean's label once Big Sean began to separate himself from Kanye West and establish an independent label imprint, and the NPR articles reveal that Amaire was tasked with music direction and/or performance for both rappers on their respective acclaimed Tiny Desk appearances. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 19:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but the point Oaktree is making is that the subjects of those articles are Big Sean and Ab-Soul, not Amaire Johnson, and that Johnson is only mentioned once by name in the CBC article and only in the credits for the NPR performances. These are passing mentions. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Sources show that the subject is notable. Esti92 (talk) 17:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In what way, especially that contradicts what Oaktree and I wrote above? Note that no additional sources have been added since I initiated this discussion, just Category:Year of birth missing (living people). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Took a little break for Christmas and just found out that you nominated this article for deletion. Added a few additional supporting sources, more categories, and made some needed copyedit "tweaks". I'll keep you posted on future changes. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 15:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Second ever edit of Esti92. Geschichte (talk) 20:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The only sources added since the launch of this discussion are a YouTube interview (reliability? certainly a primary source) and the "Best Produced Track" designation from XXL (not even a complete sentence of prose). I do not think the recent edits bring this any closer to notability. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:MUSICBIO ("Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart."). He's written four songs that charted, one of which was a Top Ten Billboard song and was nominated for a Grammy. Bearian (talk) 04:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not believe that section applies to songwriters – note that the list, starting at "this category includes", does not mention songwriters or producers, only performance roles – and you should be looking at COMPOSER instead. In that case, I believe only #1 applies, and only meeting one criteria while still not meeting GNG does not convince me. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@QuietHere I believe #4 would apply as well, no? Clearly he won the ASCAP Award for a song he co-wrote, composed, and co-produced ("Bounce Back") -- a Top 10 Hit charting in numerous markets -- being one of the 20 most played (radio, video, sync placements, streaming) and performed (touring) songs for the year with key contributors from the specific songwriting association. All ASCAP writers battle yearly to be recognized by their songwriting/publishing body via securing lucrative song placements, and very few receive recognition. It was also Grammy nominated, albeit in a category that celebrates songwriters with a Grammy certificate if nominated / Grammy winner's certificate if successful. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 16:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did forget about the ASCAP Award, that is a fair point. I'm not sure about the Grammy because, like you said, it's usually only the artists who receive recognition for it. I'm still concerned with letting a GNG miss go, and I think the ASCAP win can (and should, regardless of this discussion's outcome) be mentioned in the song's article. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 22:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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JOJO (Turkish children's channel)

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Tagged five years ago as uncited. The cites on the Turkish article are not enough to show that it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 14:46, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Çukurova Media Group#Defunct properties Nothing here outside of marking its existence and the usual uncited and vandal-vulnerable programming list. Nate • (chatter) 17:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Devstacks

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Save for this Pitchfork album review I can't find any WP:significant coverage of this person in reliable sources. Certainly none of the three sources currently in the article qualify as such Mach61 00:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No WP:SIGCOV. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 03:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a speedy delete. None of the sources listed are worth considering. guninvalid (talk) 09:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, this could go to WP:PROD. guninvalid (talk) 09:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shalabh Gupta

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Fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NBLP.
Sources provided (in order):

(1): Business Daily: A puff piece on the subject, who seems to be being interviewed for this; not an independent source.
(2): Mifeed: The title says “Blazing Trails In Biotech”, need I say more? Same as above. Published in the same week as the above source and another puff piece on the subject, who seems to be being interviewed for this; not an independent source.
(3): Company website: Primary source, as this is the company's own site. Self-published content.
(4): LA Harbor News: I am unable to visit the site and therefore cannot vet this. My browser tells me this is an unsafe site. Visit at your own direction.
(5): Founders Network: This is another primary source, as it is self-published. Details are taken from an event hosted via EventBrite here.

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- Thank you for your feedback on this. Is the main issue with the sources? I'll look for some more. What do you think about the article itself? I think he's an interesting subject. When I saw that he was the first person to work on Wall Street and being a physician at the same time, he caught my attention. I thought that might count as noteworthy and interesting enough to be included in the encyclopedia. Thanks SilverhairedHarry (talk) 17:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Hi, thank you for replying on here. The sources are, of course, a huge concern as they fail to meet WP:RS. The individual mentioned in the article also fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NBLP, I was unable to find anything online that we can consider notable. Being a physician on Wall St. wouldn't inherently make him notable, unfortunately. Nyxion³⁰³ 💬 Talk 19:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Boys' U17 Pan-American Volleyball Cup

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Fails WP:SPORTSEVENT, all but 1 of the supplied sources are primary from the event organiser. Also nominating:

2024 Girls' U17 Pan-American Volleyball Cup. LibStar (talk) 01:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Lake Forest Country Day School

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I do not see any reason why this school is notable. 🄻 🄰 01:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Could only find this piece, which reads as an ad. Other than that, no standalone reliable sources for this article. Jordano^5³ 07:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NSCHOOL. No independent sources have been provided. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Winxvideo AI

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All of the sources are promotional. 🄻 🄰 01:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Software promo, I can't find a single article in a reputable source that isn't simply a press release or sponsored article. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 03:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - rather obviously created by an editor with a close/paid relationship with the company. Brandon (talk) 08:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Louise Wareham Leonard

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This author does not appear to be a notable person. 🄻 🄰 00:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I believe 52 Men meets WP:NBOOK, with reviews in Landfall [39], Kirkus Reviews [40], Los Angeles Review of Books [41], and New Zealand Books [42]. The Missoulian (of all places) did a capsule review [43]. New Zealand Books also capsule reviewed Miss Me a Lot Of [44]. Maybe someone else can locate an additional review of Miss Me a Lot Of or an author profile -- I think that would unambiguously clear the WP:NAUTHOR bar. Jfire (talk) 02:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]