Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Buses route 64

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The result was redirect to List of bus routes in London. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 17:24, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

London Buses route 64

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No evidence this route meets WP:GNG. Endorse redirect to List of bus routes in London. SK2242 (talk) 20:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. SK2242 (talk) 20:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. SK2242 (talk) 20:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The nomination does not suggest deletion. The route has been running in Croydon since the 1930s and so is reasonably historic. All such London bus routes are well covered in books – it's just a matter of looking per WP:BEFORE and WP:NEXIST. Our policy WP:ATD applies, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 20:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Existing for a long time is not a guarantee of notability. You’d need to find such books that supposedly contain significant coverage to prove your point as I could not find any. SK2242 (talk) 20:59, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I would suggest taking a look a it's sister articles in this navbox, noting also that many routes don't have their own articles, to better gauge whether to keep or delete. Cordially, History DMZ ^{(HQ) † (wire)} 01:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We're not interested in other London bus articles for purposes of this discussion. Some are notable, many are not. Ajf773 (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Individual bus routes should be limited to only the most notable, and I do not see what makes this one stand out among all those routinely listed in such books. Reywas92^Talk 20:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
weak Keep - Since the other London bus routes have articles, it would be disruptive to the category. Unless someone wants to transform all of them, I think doing one-off variations would not be better and would be a bit of SURPRISE to find this one missing. Cheers Markbassett (talk) 21:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Markbassett: There are only few remaining routes with articles. Lots of others have been deleted and redirected to the list page in the past. SK2242 (talk) 06:57, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SK2242: ??? “only few” is Factually incorrect. I don’t know what you’re looking at but there seems 90+ articles of a bus route in London. That’s hardly all routes so there may have been others deleted - but it seems a significant percentage and lacking a guideline it seems reasonable to respect the efforts plus here a historical aspect, popularity as sightseeing bus, and 24-hour fairly direct route ... and let it be. For what it’s worth, I also see Bus routes in Manhattan, where a overall article links to each route has its own article, so having a bus route article seems not unique. Cheers Markbassett (talk) 02:08, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

90 out of over 500, and more may come to AfD soon. There is no evidence of notability for this route. SK2242 (talk) 11:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is a 'Bus Routes in London Wiki' which covers 'many or most' buses in the region and which is reasonably active: the relevant page is here. There is a case for coordination. Jackiespeel (talk) 11:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 11:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List_of_bus_routes_in_London. This is an interesting one, as someone who used to live in the area where this route ran I can confirm that it has a long history, but nothing particularly notable in said history to warrant an article. I would say that any such route that doesn't have any particular claim to fame or infamy (e.g. well-publicised and covered opposition to its introduction or a change in its routing, notable events during its run) should likewise be redirected, but that's a discussion for another day. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 18:23, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of bus routes in London. No evidence of notability. Ajf773 (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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