Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lorgius

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Martyrs of Caesarea. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lorgius

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Tagged uncited for years and I could not find much in Google Scolar Chidgk1 (talk) 17:15, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Religion and Turkey. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:15, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. People venerated as saints by major churches are clearly notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This pre-Vatican martyr never came through a formal Canonization process. All the the sources about him are literally a word or two. I’m not even sure if he really existed. There’s no evidence of a cultus. Bearian (talk) 10:02, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It's quite probable he didn't exist, but that's not unusual for early Christian saints, few of whom ever went through a formal canonisation process. It's whether he's venerated that's significant, and he clearly is, even if not that commonly. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 17:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Lorgius (Lorgio in Italian, or "San Lorgio" which works as a search term for him) is certainly a venerated saint, with churches named after him. Multiple sources exist supporting this. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 21:02, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge what limited content we have to Martyrs of Caesarea. While it does appear that there is some veneration of him, I can't find any records of churches named after him. He receives a single mention in the index of Basil Watkins' encyclopedia of saints and he and the other Caesarea martyrs receive a single mention in Aeterna Press's book of saints, which says "Little to nothing is known of these saints, and even their names are uncertain." There's no WP:SIGCOV of this saint to meet WP:GNG, but redirecting is a reasonable alternative to deletion. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Martyrs of Caesarea per Dclemens1971. He is verifiable as venerated saint (if not as an historical figure) but there is so little info that a sentence in the broader article is all that's really appropriate. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect as above - saints of major churches are notable. Ingratis (talk) 08:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.