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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete/Redirect to Sugarland (duo) Merging can be done if necessary via the edit history. --JForget 22:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Love On The Inside Tour

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Tour doesn't start until later. No reliable sources about anything else than the start date and supporting artists. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Tour is perfectly verifiable, so WP:CRYSTAL doesn't apply here. I'm having difficulty seeing the nominator's reasoning for deletion. GlassCobra 22:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Merge per Vickser. Suitable info should be included in the main article. GlassCobra 00:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It isn't a matter of verifiability, it's that the tour isn't notable enough to deserve it's own article. Usually a band-specific tour has to be rather notable to deserve it's own article, and while Sugarland is a notable group, they aren't anywhere NEAR notable enough to deserve a wikipedia page for a tour. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 23:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment If you read my post, I never said the band wasn't notable; They are. The problem is, they aren't notable enough to deserve an article for every tour they go on. Hell, The BEATLES don't even have any articles for tours, so how does Sugarland deserve an article? The problem is that nothing really notable happens on most tours: Bands go from city to city and play music. There isn't really anything different that you can write. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 23:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete until more sourced information can be found. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 23:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. WP:OUTCOMES#Music states that "Shows and tours of bands should be listed in the band article, not in a separate article" and this strikes me as a time we should do just that. There's nothing so notable about this (future) tour that we should invoke WP:Ignore all rules and give it its own article. Vickser (talk) 00:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 00:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Do you really have nothing better to do with your time? Why should this concern you. Many fans of various artists come to Wikipedia for tour information, why deprvie the fans of that. Putting all the tour information on Sugarland's main page would be very confusing and Sugarland already has a tour page for their last tour and nothing was said about that one. Sugarland doesn't deserve a tour page but the Jonas Brothers, Ciara, Kelly Rowland, they all do? Give me a break. Sugarland is one of the hottest acts around. There latest single jumped from #91 to #18 on the Hot 100.User:RSzeliga89 July 10, 2008
Remember this is an encylopedia not an entertainment guide or a social networking site. Notability of articles is based on policy not whether you believe an article should exist. --neon white talk 01:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment We aren't nominating this because we "don't have anything better to do". We're doing it because it doesn't meet the notability guidelines of WP:MUSIC. Also, it isn't a matter of "depriving fans" of anything. The article does not belong on Wikipedia. Please, try to remain civil in these discussions. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 00:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It is having nothing better to do. There are numerous tour pages. I plan to make another tour page if this one is deleted when the tour begins if not before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RSzeliga89 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Then that page will be deleted as well, assuming this discussion leads to a "delete". The purpose of these debates is to come to a consensus on a subject, and you can't just re-create an article after the discussion has taken place. Please read WP:CONSENSUS for more information on the subject. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 00:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I dont believe most tours are considered notable unless there are multiple reports in second party sources. --neon white talk 01:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, article makes no claim of notability for the tour. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 02:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - nothing here claiming to be notable --T-rex 03:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Point of fact from above: the Beatles do have The Beatles' 1965 USA Tour. There are articles for most U2 tours, Madonna tours, Rolling Stones tours, etc. These are all highly notable and written about in many third-party sources. There is a lot that can, and is, said about them in their articles. Writers of tour articles for less famous acts need to do the same. Realize that in the modern music industry, concert tours are often seen by more people than buy the albums or singles, and make the artist more money as well. So why have an article for every single that struggles to #29 on the chart, when a tour is far more important? Tour article writers, improve your topic coverage and sourcing. Wasted Time R (talk) 03:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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