Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lurline Champagnie

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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lurline Champagnie

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This article has been in existence for a few years and survived a proposed deletion back in 2008, but it remains very short and notability has not been established. Mayors of English boroughs aren't necessarily important, they sometimes only last a year on a "buggins' turn" basis. PatGallacher (talk) 00:51, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:38, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:38, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:56, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep I think this is one to lean on the side of keeping, though there's not a huge amount of RS coverage. She has an OBE, which counts for something, but doesn't automatically confer notability. The same for her local government office and being the first black woman to stand for parliament as a Conservative. There is some small dedicated local news coverage of her (here). Some limited national coverage (here; here; here) and some mentions in books. Because her main political activity seems to have been running for parliament in 1992 and for mayor of London in 2008, there may be further news coverage of her that could be found by someone digging more thoroughly than I have. Leaning on the side of including according to the GNG, but I appreciate the coverage makes this article a pretty weak GNG candidate. Ralbegen (talk) 18:29, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I find coverage in The Guardian in 1987, The Times in 1990 (2 articles by different reporters), The Telegraph in 1991 and 1995, and The Atlanta Constitution in 1991, in addition to the sources found by Ralbegen. That's not just national but international, and spans 8 years (with shorter mentions earlier and later, including when she was a candidate for the Tory nomination for Mayor of London). She certainly meets WP:GNG. The articles have more biographical information about her - her age (and so approximate birthdate), birthplace (Jamaica), the age at which she arrived in the UK, jobs, husband, number of children, as well as speeches at political conferences and candidacies. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Interested to hear that, but could you possibly add these sources to the article? PatGallacher (talk) 00:11, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I have re-written this stub and added more references. She is noteworthy given her position as first black woman (and person) to run for (and hold) several political positions in the UK. She is also chronicled in several books about the Afro-Caribbean community in the UK including Chronology for Afro-Caribbeans in the United Kingdom, and several others (here, and here). She is 84/85 now, and I have no doubt that on her passing, the Guardian and/or Telegraph will do an obituary (more GNG). Very interesting woman and I think readers from the UK Afro-Caribbean community would value this article. Andrew Rosindell nominated her for a Peerage and wrote up her bio here (there is a better version in print only). Britishfinance (talk) 11:53, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have also added more sources and information, so there are now articles about her and her work from 1987, 1990, 1995, 2009 and 2010, with info about her in other articles, a book, and websites. I have also removed the stub tag, as it's now over 1500 characters. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nice work to all who contributed here. This shows that AfD can have a good effect in saving poorly made articles. Now meets GNG. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 19:10, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as improvements have shown this article passes GNG. Happy Festivities! // J 947 ^{^(c)} 22:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - sources found, notability established, article improved. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 22:27, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep.NotButtigieg (talk) 16:12, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Recently added sources show notability Dartslilly (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.