Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MKTO
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:26, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Contested PROD. While the members of this group seem to meet WP:GNG, the group itself does not seem to meet WP:BAND, and notability is not inherited. Beyond self- and fan-generated content and the usual twitter/facebook/myspace links, there is minimal independent coverage [1] [2] [3] that is hardly WP:RS. §FreeRangeFrog 21:57, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 14:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 14:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Minor Contributor. MKTO meets the first criteria for the musicians and ensembles, which states: 1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. MKTO has covered by the following independent sources:
1. http://www.arjanwrites.com/arjanwrites/2012/10/mkto-thank-you-free-mp3.html 2. http://www.arjanwrites.com/arjanwrites/2012/05/hot-new-pop-alert-role-models-tony-oller-malcolm-david-kelley.html 3.http://www.arjanwrites.com/arjanwrites/2012/10/hot-new-pop-alert-welcome-to-the-world-of-mkto-video.html 4. http://www.twitmusic.com/wearemkto 5. http://elbo.ws/post/4574378/mkto-premieres-highly-anticipated-debut-single-thank-you-download-free-mp3/ 6. http://www.last.fm/music/MKTO?v=enabled&utm_expid=64146835-2 TonyFollowOller (talk) 21:00, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The twitmusic and Last.fm links are not relevant; they only show that the song somehow exists. They don't represent reliable-third party sources (see WP:RS). The elbo.ws 'article' is a self-referral back to arjanwrites.com, which would be the only source to possibly consider here, and I did find it - however, it is neither notable nor does it establish sufficient notability for the group on its own. §FreeRangeFrog 21:07, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
KeepMinor Contributor. Listed below are additional sources that covered or featured MKTO. While you may not consider Arjanwrites.com to be a notable source on its own, in combination with other cutting edge music blogs that have featured MKTO there is sufficient evidence to identify the group on its own.
1. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi?50 (MKTO is featured on the bottom of this page) 2. http://thekollection.com/artist/mkto/ 3. http://poponandon.com/discover-download-mkto-thank-you/ 4. http://missexclusive.com/tag/mkto TonyFollowOller (talk) 21:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC) — TonyFollowOller (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- You can't vote twice, so I've struck the second keep vote. Lukeno94 (talk) 09:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
MKTO meets the qualifications for WP:BAND with the first criteria which states: 1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. The following articles display the independent sources, as well as a Just Jared feature on the band:
1. http://www.teen.com/2012/11/21/news/celebrity-news-roundup/miley-cyrus-shaved-hair-buzz-cut/ (MKTO is the third item featured)
2. http://thekollection.com/artist/mkto/
3. http://poponandon.com/discover-download-mkto-thank-you/
4. http://missexclusive.com/tag/mkto TonyFollowOller (talk) 21:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
5. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi?50 (MKTO is featured on the bottom of this page)
6. http://elbo.ws/post/4574378/mkto-premieres-highly-anticipated-debut-single-thank-you-download-free-mp3/
Crowdsurftn (talk) 21:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Theopolisme 01:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note that TonyFollowOller (talk · contribs), besides for being an SPA whose only contributions have been two posts to this discussion, is named suspiciously similarly to TonyOller (talk · contribs), the SPA who wrote more than half of the MKTO article, and to Tony Oller, singer of the MKTO duo. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 04:07, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete it is WP:TOOSOON for this group to be notable. Beyond that, the article is written very much like a press release. I'm tempted to speedy this under G11, to be honest - it's that blatantly promotional. Lukeno94 (talk) 09:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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