Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahmood Ahmadu

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The result was no consensus. ansh 666 07:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mahmood Ahmadu

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I'm not convinced that the subject satisfies WP:BASIC or WP:ANYBIO. The sources cited are short pieces from minor news outlets and at least one of them (the first) is a press release as opposed to an independent article. A total of 105 results on Google, most of which seem to be duplicative press releases, blogs, directories and social media. There is also no indication that the subject's company is notable. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 22:18, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Subject has won awards [1] [2], [3], [4] and it's clear to me that these awards are notable enough to meet WP:ANYBIO. In my opinion I feel like Wikipedia is already far too ethnocentric, discounting award nominees from non-Anglophonic countries. Furthermore the subject also "holds the National Honor of the Officer of the Order of the Niger (OON)" [5], Vanguard Nigeria is an independent source. Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Were awards such as BEFFTA Awards truly notable Wikipedia would probably have articles on them. And I don't see how being an OON establishes notability – the vanguardngr.com page lists 65 OONs for 2013-14, the majority of whom are unlikely to satisfy the notability guidelines here. And while vanguardngr.com is an independent source, the page cited does not provide significant coverage of the subject. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 18:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BEFFTA awards are listed on multiple pages of notable musicians, entrepreneurs, companies etc here on Wikipedia See here and the subject has received an Asian Voice Charity Award, Charity Charity being the technical partner of Asian Voice Charity Awards. WP:ANYBIO is met. Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:23, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain how the awards mentioned in the article are "well-known and significant" as per WP:ANYBIO. That BEFFTA is mentioned in other articles does not necessarily make it "well-known and significant". Again, the lack of articles for any of these awards would seem indicative of their lack of notability. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 15:20, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The BEFFTA are mentioned in reliable sources [6], [7] and other multiple reliable sources which can be found upon a Google search. Asian Voice is the host of the Asian Voice Charity Awards Stated here and them being mentioned here, here...again more sources can be found upon a Google search. Charity Clarity is the technical partner of Asian Voice Charity Awards Stated here. Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:23, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:10, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Subjects is likely to be notable in the future but certainly not now. There's no WP:SIGCOV on the subject. He might have won some awards but it doesn't clearly meet notability guidelines. WP:TOOSOON. Lapablo (talk) 10:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep I was able to find additional articles, [8] and [9], on Mahmood Ahmadu. Following these I was able to find [10], [11], and [12] on the subject's potential involvement in a scandal. Adding these citations and a section to the current page about this might make the page redeemable according to WP:SIGCOV, but I'm not familiar with the scandal or Nigeria enough to say for certain. Userqio (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

With regard to the first two links, Business Wire is a press release agency. Press releases are not independent sources (as required by WP:SIGCOV) because they are written by people connected to the subjects of the releases – in this case, by the PR manager for OIS, Mahmood Ahmadu's company. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 01:12, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.