Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcos Oliveira

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The result was no consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:01, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Marcos Oliveira

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this was a contested PROD as Non-notable - won a couple but eventually lost in non-notable tournament Peter Rehse (talk) 00:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 00:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 03:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I would agree he's not notable as an MMA fighter, but my search found he had a second and a third place finish in the black belt division at the IBJJF world championships. I added this information and sources to the article, as well as cleaning up some of the text. Papaursa (talk) 15:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 16:07, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 16:21, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The IBJJF links look good enough to establish notability.CaSJer (talk) 17:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete: I'm unconvinced that Marcus Oliveira has been the subject of multiple published non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject as stated in the notability guideline for sports. He did not win the IBJJF world championships and even in sources related to that there doesn't seem to be much about him beyond the results. He has not fought in a top tier MMA orgnization, so it doesn't meet the essay for MMA notability either. I'm leaning weakly to deletion because I do not believe that the IBJJF world championship is the top tier in submission grappling (that would be the ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship), but I know relatively little about the IBJJF, so perhaps there could be some basis to keep the article, although I don't think so. Jfgslo (talk) 05:01, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.