Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Keohane

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The result was keep. czar 18:03, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Keohane

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Subject fails WP:MUSICBIO and GNG. We cannot rely upon the routine coverage found from the works in which she was featured or, in this case, publishers of music who provide bios of artists. Even actual journalism like this is a mere mention of her and not significant coverage. My A7 was declined so I'm sending this to AfD rather than draft. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:35, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Sweden. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:35, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Clearly notable. 47 recordings, received well by Gramophone. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:07, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - with an assist from the WP Library, I expanded the article with a variety of reviews of her performances and her various recordings. With the addition of these sources, I think it is more clear per WP:MUSICBIO#1, she has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself and per #4 has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country, and per #6, she is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles. Beccaynr (talk) 19:04, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, clearly meets our requirements. Also WP:HEY. /Julle (talk) 19:16, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't find it so clear. Even with recent sources added, we still have mere mentions like JSTOR. I'm not disputing that the subject sings for a living. There's no significant coverage. No one is writing about her. Among the problems Wikipedia has is how we've demeaned GNG to be having more than one source that says the person or thing exists. That's not to my mind "generally notable." Chris Troutman (talk) 20:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  But the sources are writing about her performances, recorded and live - the JSTOR reference is also about her and as compared to another singer; it includes "Maria Keohone is an ideal Handel singer, with a pure, beautifully controlled voice, excellent diction and a strong but not overdone sense of drama" and goes on to say "Marie Friederike Schoder suffers by comparison with Maria Keohane" with details as to why the author holds that opinion. She is the soprano, so the reviews of her performances do write about her, because she is reasonably prominent. I did not add announcements of performances or album releases; these are independent RS over time providing secondary coverage. Beccaynr (talk) 20:53, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A search in the Swedish media archive for "Maria Keohane" (not a common name in Sweden, the articles are about her) gives 2351 hits. I've added some biographic detail from a couple of them, one ("Sångfågel och hästvila", Södra Dalarnes Tidning) being a roughly 1000 words long profile of her life and career. /Julle (talk) 11:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per above, seems to be notable, should be kept Kazanstyle (talk) 13:29, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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