Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megalon (2nd nomination)
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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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No standalone notability from his debut film, and has barely appeared outside of it. Little to no sourcing exists beyond the article, which has been tagged for notability since 2022. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Film. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Redirect to Godzilla vs. Megalon as alternative to deletion.Draft seems to pass GNG. --Mika1h (talk) 18:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)- Keep. I have worked on a revised draft of the article that I was gonna transfer into the main article. It is currently at 83 citations from reliable sources. I have yet co complete it because I have been pulled elsewhere with another project.--Paleface Jack (talk) 20:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- I will say that while this is a very significant improvement (Great job, by the way) I'm struggling to see a proper impact in the Reception, since most of the sources are mostly about his role in his specific film. Most of his cultural impact is also within his own series, which seems to indicate a lack of impact outside of the Godzilla franchise. Given that it's unfinished, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for a future revival, but as it stands now I'm not seeing anything that proves standalone notability. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Trust me, I know. However, Varan has the same sort of thing. That Article I did expand into GA status and, it is notable for the longevity of the character. Megalon is notable for popularity and longevity. Minor Kaiju, such as Gabara or Maguma are far from notable and fall within that questionable notability. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- I will say that while this is a very significant improvement (Great job, by the way) I'm struggling to see a proper impact in the Reception, since most of the sources are mostly about his role in his specific film. Most of his cultural impact is also within his own series, which seems to indicate a lack of impact outside of the Godzilla franchise. Given that it's unfinished, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for a future revival, but as it stands now I'm not seeing anything that proves standalone notability. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and replace with Pokelego999's Draft article. Current article is not sufficient to pass notability requirements, but the draft article is. DonaldD23 talk to me 11:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- You mean Paleface Jack's draft? =) GreenishPickle! (🔔) 14:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes! Sorry about that! DonaldD23 talk to me 00:50, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- You mean Paleface Jack's draft? =) GreenishPickle! (🔔) 14:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Paleface Jack's version as that is a major improvement that passes WP:GNG in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I agree that Paleface Jack's version is reliably sourced. Barr's The Kaiju Film: A Critical Study of Cinema's Biggest Monsters and Galbraith's Monsters are Attacking Tokyo!: The Incredible World of Japanese Fantasy Films are independent, published books offering criticism and analysis. The article includes background, behind-the-scenes information on the design and development of the character. Very well done, keep per WP:HEY. Toughpigs (talk) 22:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep Reception for the new draft is still noticeably weak and mostly details how future Godzilla movies were influenced. But it is, at least, there, and the article otherwise seems to pass WP:GNG. As Pokelego said, I don't mind giving it the benefit of the doubt that it can be improved. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:04, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment as nominator, I'd be willing to let the draft replace the current article for the time being. While it's weak as it is right now, I feel as though it has potential for improvement, and can be re-evaluated at a later date. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.