Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Micky Dumoulin

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Micky Dumoulin

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A quick Google search displays this person to be a one-time hit, with most reliable sources gathering around April/May 2015 and then stopping. Very close to a BLPPROD but saved with a Twitter link in lede. Not notable. ^My^name ^isnot^dave (talk/contribs) 21:14, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually even a Twitter link doesn't save a page from BLPPROD, as BLPPROD requires the presence of a reliable source in the article, which a Twitter link is not. But since we're here, we're here. The article makes no claim of notability that satisfies WP:NMUSIC — competing on a reality show doesn't get you a notability freebie unless you win the show, and even if that happens the article still has to be reliably sourced. Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if and when he actually accomplishes something noteworthy. Bearcat (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Rerun sources. Non-notable. FeatherPluma (talk) 03:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I have been working on editing the page with links & a reliable source in order to prevent this page from deletion. I have found other reality show competitors that haven't won a show on Wiki, so hopefully this will be fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrismoouk (talk • contribs) 14:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- Eeek, the issue here though is that Micky is a bit of a one-hit wonder. It's a common story, for X-Factor/BGT contestants, to end up living a life singing at holiday parks and on cruise ships -- common sense can tell that this isn't something notable. Thanks for your award, telling me that you've learnt a couple of things from this AfD, but I feel that you've missed the point unfortunately. It's not a case of who won but it's more a case of what they've done (take a look at Bars and Melody as an example). Thanks, ^My^name ^isnot^dave (talk/contribs) 16:02, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, besides policy and whatnot, let's take a look at actual page hits. Its early days yet, but compare hits to this page in comparison to the starting days of the B&M page. ^My^name ^isnot^dave (talk/contribs) 16:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A person who competed on a reality show but didn't win can still get over our notability criteria for things they did after being on the reality show; for instance, if a non-winning American Idol competitor gets signed to a label, records and releases an album and has a smash hit single, then the fact that they didn't win when they were on American Idol doesn't matter anymore — because those other things take over from American Idol as the crux of their notability. But if the notability is specifically tied to the fact of having been on a reality show, with no other substantive claim that they've achieved anything else noteworthy besides the fact of having been on a reality show, then they have to win the show to get an article just because of the show. Bearcat (talk) 00:58, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:08, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:08, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete without prejudice to userification and restoration if his career goes anywhere else after this. So far it's not enough. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:09, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.