Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mir Mugdho

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The result was keep‎. I see a consensus to Keep but editors should consider renaming the article to focus on the Death of Mir Mugdho to avoid the problems that can exist with a biography. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mir Mugdho

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Clear case of WP:BIO1E: the coverage is solely about his death. This article is similar to Farhan Faiyaaz, and a Merge into List of people who died in the July massacre might be a good option. Even international responses were only because of his death. GrabUp - Talk 09:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Bangladesh. GrabUp - Talk 09:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom and other similar articles. Procyon117 (talk) 13:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Death of Mir Mugdho. Deleting is not solution. And to be honest, its content is not actually so similar to Farhan Faiyaaz. Mir Mugdho's death had more and significant impact on Student-People's uprising. As his death is significant and notable, renaming it would be better idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehedi Abedin (talk • contribs)
Keep : This appears to have enough significant coverage in reliable sources to keep it. 🇧🇩 Zayan^{Mr Bangladesh71} (Talk)

@User:Mr Bangladesh71: Please cite any significant coverage about this person besides their death in the protests. No matter how much significant coverage a person received for one event, the subject cannot have a stand-alone article because it fails WP:BIO1E. A separate article about the death event, as suggested by Mehedi Abedin, could be created. GrabUp - Talk 05:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Mugdho was literally one of the most prominent figures in the uprising. His video handing out water bottles went viral and got enough attention to solidify his notability. His slogan, "Pani lagbe, Pani," became iconic—it was painted on walls from Chittagong source to Rangpursource source. On top of that, his significance in the movement and the impact of his death directly led to his brother becoming the Organising CEO of the July Shaheed Smrity Foundation. Also, his death was even notable to the previous regime, that out of everyone that was killed, the then education minister, Mohibul Hasan Chowdhury paid homage to his grave at his hometown.*

If that doesn’t scream notability, here are just a few of the many reliable sources covering his story: CNN BBC Prothom Alo Benar. Bruno 🌹 (talk) 11:58, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruno pnm ars: You don’t seem to understand WP:BIO1E. When a person receives significant coverage for only one event, such as their death during the protests, BIO1E states that there should not be a standalone article or biography page about them. All the sources you provided cover the person solely because of their death in the protest, and nothing else. This is a clear case of a one-event scenario. Even if there are thousands of articles about their death, that alone does not meet notability requirements. There must be significant coverage about them in relation to other events, which does not exist here. Instead, we can create a separate article about their death, like Death of Mir Mugdho. GrabUp - Talk 07:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His influence in Bangladeshi politics isn't any less than that of Gavrilo Princip in Europe, albeit in a positive way. He has become a legendary figure whose cultural influence is only increasing in time. No it isn't just about his death, hundreds of other people has died in the revolution. But the kind of person he was has left a deep impact on collective Bangladeshi psyche.

There is a coordinated effort from some neighboring countries to downplay the significance of the July revolution. Trying to delete this article on a (false) technicality seems to be a part of that effort. Wikipedia should keep the article on a person of such historical importance. 116.68.203.3 (talk) 12:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Mugdho is a prominent, or we can say a key figure, in the development of the movement as we observed the build up in the final days. His "Pani lagbe pani" became an icon during and after the movement. From news anchor crying for Mugdho on live television before AL minister went viral.[1] After Sheikh Hasina's resignation, Mugdho was also the key figure with his quote on graffitis all over Bangladesh.[2] These clearly shows the case. Even the subsequent protests against BD President over his controversial remarks on Sheikh Hasina's resignation as BD PM or against Indian "aggression", protesters used the slogan “Abu Sayed-Mugdho, shesh hoyni juddho" (Abu Sayed to Mugdho, the fight isn't over).[3][4] I can also see a short documentary report on Mugdho from CNN here. I am not quite sure about Farhan, but Mugdho certainly passes the GNG, and obviously not 1E. — Meghmollar2017 (U T C) — 20:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Meghmollar2017: All the sources you cited are related to or because of his death in the protests. Please provide even a single source that gives significant coverage before his death, specifically before 18 July 2024, which is the date of his death, or any significant coverage that is not about or related to his death in the protest. This is a clear case of WP:BIO1E. GrabUp - Talk 07:15, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GrabUp, In this case, we do have other articles on WP, where they are notable not only because they died on a specific event but also for the impact after their demise. For instance Trayvon Martin or Abdul Jabbar (activist) from 1952 language movement, and so on. WP:1E itself defines, ... if media coverage of both the event and the individual's role grow larger, separate articles may become justified. — Meghmollar2017 (U T C) — 18:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Meghmollar2017: Please avoid WP:WHATABOUT arguments here, as they don’t work in this. I also don’t see anything particularly notable about the subject beyond his death during the protests. Additionally, WP:1E states, If the event and the individual’s role grow larger, separate articles may become justified. Currently, there is no article about the death event itself. If such an article existed, this argument might hold merit. Therefore, I believe it would be better to create a separate article about the death event, as a biography article is not warranted at this time. GrabUp - Talk 09:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The proponent is making two statements. First said, merge this article, Then it says to change the title. The proponent should say one statement. Then he says, the article is made for a single incident. If a person gets Hughes coverage for a single incident, it is not tied to the WP:BIO1E policy. Rather it becomes significant according to GNG. ~ Deloar Akram (Talk • Contribute) 12:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is also a controversy about Mugho after the Student–People's uprising. He also have a reputation.RealStranger43286 (talk) 14:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He was notable Codonified (talk) 18:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename Death of Mir Mugdho. Don't delete, he is worth notable & prominent. Ahammed Saad (talk) 07:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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