Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miracle Center

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Miracle Center

Appears to fail WP:CORP. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re Miracle Center

Hello, Schumin. I noticed your message that you nominated my article, Miracle Center, for deletion. Apparently, it violates some sort of Wikipedia policy for relevance. Although I consider myself very much a novice in the world of Wiki, I remember one day browsing through several Wiki articles hoping to learn about some of the local shopping malls in the area. Several of the articles were interesting, and I noticed Miracle Center was not on the list. I figure a Miami list of shopping malls, existing or otherwise, wouldn't be complete without Miracle Center on the list. Currently, the Miracle Center is being remodeled and has partially reopened. EnriqueH (talk) 16:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Plenty of sources are available (if that is what you ment by failing CORP). Anywhere that was once described as "chronically unsuccessful" and making a turnaround, passed WP:N easily in my mind (if that is what you ment by failing CORP). Exit2DOS ^{• Ctrl • Alt • Del} 00:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, unless we're going to start deleting all shopping malls from Wiki, I don't know we'd single this one out for deletion, especially since it's making a turnaround and has several stores advertised on its signs, such as Petsmart, Nordstrom Rack, Bed, Bath & Beyond and Bally's fitness club, which is the only business there from its original opening.EnriqueH (talk) 01:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Lots of third-party notable sources describing this significant mall in a major metropolitan area. If it was abandoned and getting bulldozed tomorrow, I'd say trash it, but since it's being renovated and new sources continue to mention it, it's a definite keep for me. Zachlipton (talk) 06:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep as per other editors' opinions. It's not particularly interesting to me in the UK, but I see no harm in it being kept. there are general articles on shopping malls and strip malls, their history etc. It would be SO good if there were a template to mark something as British or US English, since the pronunciation of "mall" is different in the UK from the US (it rhymes with gal, not ball) and of course "center" is spelt differently. That is not a question for AFD of course but I have not found anywhere to discuss it! Please if you know I will grumble there: this is obviously US English and should remain so, but I bet someone one day will put it as "centre". SimonTrew (talk) 11:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.