Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammed Jabbar Shwkan

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The result was delete. L Faraone 01:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed Jabbar Shwkan

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the grounds that he has played in the AFC cup, an assertion not supported by reliable sources that does not confer notability as it would have been for a non-fully-pro club. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Part of Erbil SC run in the continental competition 2012 AFC Cup (won with the team the runners-up), Then part of Al-Quwa Al-Jawiya in the regular inter continental competition 2012–13 UAFA Club Cup. Part of Iraq achevment in the Asian Youth cup And he is a starter of Iraq youth National football team in the 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup this June. Mussav (talk) 18:26, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As stated in the nomination, none of this can grant notability without being supported by reliable sources. Furthermore, he did not actually play in the AFC Cup, meaning Ebril's participation does not confer notability, the UAFA Club Cup is not fully pro and does not attract enough coverage to grant notability either, and youth appearances are explicitly excluded as a sources of notability by WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 09:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - has not played in a fully pro league or represented his country at senior level, which means the article fails WP:NFOOTY. Also fails WP:GNG due to lack of in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Iraq IS a fully professional League sponsored by Zain just Like Saudi Arabia[1], But because of security reasons we don't play in the AFC Champions League. STRONGLY KEEP. Mussav (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Having a sponsor does not necessarily mean a league is fully pro. Just as an example, the English fifth division is sponsored by Blue Square yet it isn't an FPL. Which means this article does not confer notability. Also, please only !vote once. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:13, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First Please don't scratch my opinion. Thank you. Secondly Iraq is a fully Professional league and If you type on Google "Iraq Professional League on Arabic" you'll have one million and one hundred plus articles[2]. Now that I've given you proves that Iraq is Fully professional League, now tell me why Iraq IS NOT a professional football league? Thank you again. Mussav (talk) 18:01, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Given that you already !voted keep in your first comment, you are not permitted to do so again. WP:GHITS is not a valid argument. I could perform the same procedure on almost any of the confirmed non-fully-pro leagues and get several million hits. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No matter what WP:NFOOTBALL may or may not say or whether the league may or may not be fully professional, we need better sourcing than this for a WP:BLP. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:23, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Wow, really? a delete? not an improvement? If you need sources I'll give you sources just ask. Mussav (talk) 11:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL.Simione001 (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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