Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mojugara Sogasugara
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter123 (interview) @ 15:33, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
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Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NF. Sources fail WP:RS. Article has been tagged for improvement for six months w/o result. PROD was removed with the explanation that web sources are difficult to come by for certain pre-2000 films. However RS sources of some kind are required.WP:OR is inadmissible for establishing notability. It is possible that adequate sources may exist in another language. I will happily reconsider the nom if/when verifiable evidence of notability is presented. Ad Orientem (talk) 16:59, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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- ...and again here as well, there is no deadline, and I'd hate to see something tossed due to being neglected or again, because the film or language is not well represented online... so I've left another note asking for assistance in sourcing over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Karnataka. Fingers crossed. Schmidt, Michael Q. 06:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep! Thanks for putting up a request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Karnataka. As I commented elsewhere, the cited source Kannda Movies Info is a reliable source. It is so much like IMDB of Kannada Films. Regional reliable sources should be acknowledged even if they are not popular outside their regional audience. All Kannada Film articles that cite this source should not be nominated for deletion. Lokesh 2000 (talk) 13:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- IMDB is not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. None of these sources provide the in depth coverage from RS sources called for by the guidelines. They do little more than note the film's existence and regurgitate the basic information normally found in the credits. Just because something exists does not mean it's entitled to an article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:33, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep! Thanks for putting up a request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Karnataka. As I commented elsewhere, the cited source Kannda Movies Info is a reliable source. It is so much like IMDB of Kannada Films. Regional reliable sources should be acknowledged even if they are not popular outside their regional audience. All Kannada Film articles that cite this source should not be nominated for deletion. Lokesh 2000 (talk) 13:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Added another source Filmi-Beat, an online Kannada Tabloid that noted popularity of a song of this movie and listed it in its top ten song selection. Those who can read Kannada can verify it. It is difficult to present online resources for notability of kannada movies released around 15-20 years back. As the movie stars a mainstream actor, and directed by a well known director, local tabloids and news papers definitely covered it back then when it was released but there was very little internet presence at that time in Karnataka so hard to find that coverage online now. The only way is to go to library, dig deep in archives to obtain hard copies of the news prints which is very time consuming and not many people would do that. I think at least now deletion process can be stopped Thanks!Lokesh 2000 (talk) 06:19, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, the discussion is still going to have to wait seven days. Schmidt, Michael Q. 04:02, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- Added another source Filmi-Beat, an online Kannada Tabloid that noted popularity of a song of this movie and listed it in its top ten song selection. Those who can read Kannada can verify it. It is difficult to present online resources for notability of kannada movies released around 15-20 years back. As the movie stars a mainstream actor, and directed by a well known director, local tabloids and news papers definitely covered it back then when it was released but there was very little internet presence at that time in Karnataka so hard to find that coverage online now. The only way is to go to library, dig deep in archives to obtain hard copies of the news prints which is very time consuming and not many people would do that. I think at least now deletion process can be stopped Thanks!Lokesh 2000 (talk) 06:19, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep though I am unable to read Kannada, I assume good faith that this Kannada editor is correct. Schmidt, Michael Q. 04:02, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
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