Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nate Hertweck

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:30, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nate Hertweck

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No evidence of any notability. Very few passing mentions in GNews[1], nothing useful in generic Google[2], no attention for his career so far. Fram (talk) 10:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Journalism, and United States of America. Fram (talk) 10:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this resume/CV-like article on a "polymath" does not meet notability criteria for WP:NMUSICIAN, WP:NAUTHOR, WP:NARTIST - nor the general notability requirements. The fact that he worked as the Senior Project Manager for the Grammy Foundation or worked with notable musicians does not count towards establishing his own notability. What is needed is SIGCOV in reliable sources that are independent and not user-submitted content. Netherzone (talk) 16:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Sorry for taking a while to respond, I just started classes. New to this whole thing, just trying to get a feel for biographies as I'd imagine that those criteria are more strict. I realize that finding sources for this on Google News will be difficult, especially considering he had a career writing for a news source with Grammys. Thank you Fram for teaching me how to remove a source with the GNews link, super useful! I would like to bring attention to the the results on Google Scholar, which seem to have far more on the topic at hand. With these options [3] and [4]. And Netherzone makes a good point the resume like structure, I will attempt to convert as most of it as I can into a more narrative style. I do believe this topic meets the notability criteria, though I am very willing to improve it even if we have to move it to draft. Guac Is Extra Delicious (talk) 08:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Your Google Scholar links start with a citation, but already the second hit[5] is a Wikipedia mirror, another one[6] is a MA thesis, as is this one, leaving us with just a handful of short references to articles Hertweck wrote. The second link you provide is mostly the same set of titles, with some completely irrelevant ones added[7][8]. Fram (talk) 08:56, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for replying to this, I can see what you're saying about those scholar results. But I do believe they satisfy WP:AUTHOR as being "widely cited by peers or successors". If that is not the case, then I will be happy to take it to draft like my Ashley Martinez article, since I need to become better at biographical articles and selecting those topics. Guac Is Extra Delicious (talk) 01:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  @Guac Is Extra Delicious, I think you are misunderstanding that guideline. I'm not seeing anything that establishes that he's widely cited by peers or successors. @Fram may have a different take on this, but to my understanding he definitely does not satisfy WP:NAUTHOR. Netherzone (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  
  I definitely may be misunderstanding the guideline Netherzone, really grateful that you people are trying to educate me on this. Genuine question, just trying to learn. Wouldn't the citations in Billboard (magazine), Journalism History, and Zenodo indicate this? Guac Is Extra Delicious (talk) 02:14, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  User:Guac Is Extra Delicious has been blocked as a sockpuppet. -- Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Having a cool job at The Recording Academy does not confer notability. Novemberjazz 01:12, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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