Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Cardiac Centre

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Cardiac Centre

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Bringing this here for discussion as it was moved out of AfC, but I don't think it meets N:ORG. The coverage is non neutral (beacon, transformative) which reads like pay to play vs. independent coverage required of ORGCRIT. Aware of systemic bias, but not sure this cardiac centre is notable. Star Mississippi 12:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Health and fitness, Organizations, Companies, Medicine, and Nepal. Star Mississippi 12:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Problem is that about every country on the planet has a national cardiac centre, so finding things on Nepal is hard. Nothing found in Pubmed, this was about the only journal that mentions it [1]. Not enough sourcing to build an article. Oaktree b (talk) 23:06, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Oaktree b. Sir, I could find some more journal articles related to National Cardiac Centre. Please have a look.
Also, I could find that some of them are indexed in PubMed too. EEverest 8848 (talk) 04:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also....you must be well aware of the fact that in developing countries like Nepal, and for non-academic institutions, it is quite rare to have a journal indexed in PubMed. EEverest 8848 (talk) 04:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep: Gorkhapatra, the government’s official newspaper, provides detailed coverage of the National Cardiac Centre’s free telemedicine service for migrant workers, making it a reliable source. 1.Additionally, a Nepali article on CPR training offers further insight into the centre's work 2.The Republica and The Kathmandu Post (not included in the references of the article) , two top independent English media outlets, also cover the subject in depth 3 4 .The Rising Nepal, an English government daily, adds further credibility with its article on a free heart camp organized by the centre 5.Overall, these sources provide notability of subject with reliable independent sources . There are also additional sources available in Nepali languages. Wikirover365 (talk) 17:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : I could find that The article is supported by reliable independent sources from different reputable English as well as Nepali media, which offer substantial coverage of the subject. I have listed few of them here :

1. https://myrepublica.nagariknetwork.com/news/national-cardiac-centre-launches-affordable-cardiovascular-risk-assessment-service-to-benefit-low-income-families/ 2.https://www.nepalhealthpress.com/noncommunicable-diseases/7173/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2JoWE0u47fWvjDOS_NCaQUH9cRpRboxQ4nBWIApaKRDKpm5MGwlcG_Iuw_aem_Ks8go2xuvaxrKVrNTKrgLg 3. https://www.healthaawaj.com/news/50528/ --Santoshsah4 (talk) 08:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No in-depth coverage. All references are advertisement in the form of press releases. nirmal (talk) 02:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nirmaljoshi I respectfully disagree with the assertion that all references in the article are merely press releases. Sources such as the government national daily Gorkhapatra and My Republica offer independent coverage of the center's activities. Additionally, other cited articles provide in-depth analysis of the center's health promotion initiatives. Reputable English-language media outlets, including The Kathmandu Post and Republica, have reported on recent developments through genuine reporting rather than relying solely on press releases.
EEverest 8848 (talk) 09:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I disagree. Please refer to Wikipedia:ORG.

The piece in Gorkhapatra is about Tele-medicine. It is not about this organization.

The mention in My Republica is also about theTele-medicine.

The kathmandu post explitly mentions it is a press release. "...The NCC said in a statement that this initiative, launched in conjunction with World Heart Day 2024, ....''

Best! nirmal (talk) 00:33, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- At best, it can be redirected to List of hospitals in Nepal.nirmal (talk) 00:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. The sources mentioned above fail these criteria as follows:

This in MyRepublica is a company announcement, fails WP:ORGIND
This in Nepal Health Press is another company announcement, also fails ORGIND
This from Nepal Health Press appears to be a report on what happened at the NCC on World Health Day including presentations by cardiologists. It doesn't provide any in-depth information on the NCC, fails CORPDEPTH.
This from gorkhapatraonline tells the story of an anonymous person who developed symptoms of heart disease and eventually contacted the NCC. It is clearly a promotional piece to raise awareness. Fails CORPDEPTH and ORGIND.
This next in MyRepublica is another story of an anonymous person's treatment at the NCC and is also, clearly, a promotional piece to raise awareness, also fails CORPDEPTH and ORGIND.
This next in Nepal Health Press is another "awareness" promotional piece showcasing the free diagnosis and advice provided in rural communities. Fails CORPDEPTH and ORGIND.
This in HealthPati also forms part of the promotional activities of the company, informing people on what to due if someone collapses due to a heart attack. Fails CORPDEPTH and ORGIND.

WP is not a platform for promotion or advocating on subjects no matter how worthy. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 11:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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