Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noah Stone

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The result was delete. Closing as delete, as notability has not been demonstrated. Inclusion in published lists, local "best of" publications has not been shown to indicate notability. No position of eminence is demonstrated, GNG or not. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:59, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Noah Stone

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WP:BLP of an investor, whose claims of notability are not properly referenced. The references here are almost entirely primary sources, such as press releases from his own companies and Facebook posts and tweets and Eventbrite or Meetup listings -- and the only reference that's actually to a reliable source at all is not to coverage about him, but to an article in which he's briefly quoted as a giver of soundbite about something other than himself. All of which means that exactly none of the sources here are notability-supporting ones at all, and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to clear GNG on proper notability-supporting sources. Bearcat (talk) 18:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This individual meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. He has been mentioned in a credible, non-primary source (Quinn's Quill Magazine), as being listed on the magazine's 'Top Investors to Watch in 2018.' His being named San Francisco's '2017 San Francisco Young Investor of the Year' is confirmed by multiple sources (http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3413459, http://www.latestnewsfinance.com/story/133900/noah-d-stone-named-2017-san-francisco-young-investor-of-the-year.html). His being named the sole recipient of the city of San Francisco's 'Investor of the Year' classifies as notable under Wikipedia's notability policy. The articles were NOT written by "his companies," as BearCat has stated. The author can clearly be identified at the bottom of the articles. The supplemental notability confirmations are links proving his speakership at events throughout the San Francisco Bay Area. Additionally, there exists a CrunchBase (open source page where people create pages of notable investors) dedicated to this person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hernonwith7767 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User-generated content sites like CrunchBase are not reliable or notability-supporting sources for Wikipedia content; press releases from his own companies and/or public relations agent and/or directly affiliated organizations on DigitalJournal or LatestNewsFinance are not reliable or notability-supporting sources for Wikipedia content; and Quinn's Quill is a Blogspot blog, not a reliable or notability-supporting source for Wikipedia content. And every award that exists at all does not immediately hand its winner an automatic "notable because he won an award", either: the extent to which an award counts as a notability claim is entirely coterminous with the extent to which real media — major market daily newspapers, etc. — report the granting of that award as news, but no such sourcing is being shown here. I was and still am 100 per cent correct in my evaluation of the "sources" that have been cited in this article, which are not reliable or notability-supporting sources. Bearcat (talk) 19:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~It seems to me that he is a notable person. He was investor of the year for one of the largest cities in the country, San Francisco. Am I missing something?~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theguywiththe8 (talk • contribs)

You're missing that notability is not a question of what a person did; it's a question of how much reliable source coverage in real media they did or didn't receive for doing what they did. A person could be notable for winning a tiddlywinks competition if they somehow get enough reliable source coverage in media to clear WP:GNG for it, and a president of the United States could be not notable if they somehow managed to hold the role without getting media coverage for it. The amount of media coverage that can or can't be cited to support the article is what determines whether a person is notable or not. Bearcat (talk) 15:14, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not true. There are multiple articles that stand on Wikipedia with one source stating their net worth, or a featured article in a business magazine such as Forbes. This is starting to feel like you have had a personal issue with the person in question. Your bias should not be part of your editing here at Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theguywiththe8 (talk • contribs)

~~Above has a point. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathis_Cabiallavetta~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacifist411life41141133 (talk • contribs)

Please note that I've struck several comments by CU-confirmed socks of Hernonwith7767. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Noah Stone does meet the notability guidelines set forth by Wikipedia. As someone living in the bay area, his prominence is well known. And I think all the links prove this. I've been looking for more links and found one of him on MIT's website. He is now judging at MIT for their innovation challenge. Regardless, here is my two cents for this page! Thanks everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siliconvalleyguru007 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: does not meet WP:ANYBIO and significant RS coverage not found. Sourcing is passing mentions and / or WP:SPIP. The amount of SPA activity at this AfD is concerning. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:39, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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