Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oceann Hai

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oceann Hai

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suggesting self-promotion. Perhaps this imdb page is a little clearer about her filmography.Pinging User:Wikimandia User:SwisterTwister who seem experienced judging these pages. Timmyshin (talk) 09:56, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete - The achievements are clearly listed on imdb and the notability is widely reported by most the major medias in China. It is racist to doubt the notability because you can not read Chinese. The titles including Miss Asia USA Global and Miss Glory of Universe are all major pageant queen title holders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.0.117.4 (talk) 12:32, 21 December 2015 (UTC) 173.0.117.4 (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and AFD. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 10:59, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Miss Asia USA Global and Miss Glory of Universe are all major pageant queen title holders" yet there are no pages for them, nor are these events mentioned anywhere else on Wikipedia. I don't doubt these pageants exist but no notable. Timmyshin (talk) 23:28, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - reads like a resume, I can't understand Chinese. —Мандичка^YO 😜 10:53, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 17:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 17:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - as my searches found nothing better at all and the article would certainly need to be improved. SwisterTwister talk 17:56, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We'd better be careful with this one. It is sourced, albeit primarily in a language neither I nor some of the people voting here read. Remember that sources need not be in English to pass notability. As such, I don't think I (or anybody else who doesn't read Chinese) can really say if this is notable or not. p b p 15:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate your reservation, but please realize this person has not done anything in China or the Chinese-speaking world (besides attending school). Every single film project she's involved in (listed on this page and on IMDB) was done in the U.S. The "Miss Asia USA Global" was obviously held in the USA. "Miss Glory of Universe" was held in India. So why does this page cite no English-language sources but only Chinese-language sources? The answer is simple. Imagine an American guy going to China and appearing in an extra role in a Chinese web drama series. Back home he can brag all he wants that he became a superstar in China, and not knowing anything better who in his community (that is not Chinese) is going to say otherwise? In her case, all the Chinese sources cited in this article use designations such as "Hollywood Star Hai Zexi (好莱坞女星海泽熙)" or "Hollywood's young Chinese Star Hai Yan (好莱坞华人新星海蓝)", and in my opinion it's very obvious who wrote those pieces. Bottom line is she has not appeared in any film or pageant that is notable in any country (that has a page on Wikipedia), and this is not something that should be overlooked just because her family, friends and herself put up 30 links (and accuse others of racism) to help her case. Timmyshin (talk) 23:28, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Do not Delete~~ I found thousands of news talking about her , along with other major actress and actors, they are just not uploaded to wikipedia's page . Maybe I can help with it later. It is not appropriate to attack others only because you are not familiar with something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.0.117.4 (talk) 18:43, 26 December 2015 (UTC) — Duplicate vote: 173.0.117.4 (talk • contribs) has already cast a vote above.[reply]

User:Wikimandia User:SwisterTwister User:Purplebackpack89 Seems like the socks are really desperate, see [1]. Timmyshin (talk) 23:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now per WP:TNT and WP:Too soon. I have looked through most of the sources cited in the article. Purplebackpack89, I'm afraid I agree with Timmyshin's analysis. She only has minor roles in Hollywood and won minor pageant titles, but the Chinese media has blown it out of proportion. Given the current state of the article, I think we should WP:TNT it. Nevertheless, I wouldn't object to re-creating an article on her when English-language coverage of her Hollywood work emerge in the future - as an active actress and beauty pageant contestant, this will probably happen in the next few years, just not yet. Der yck C. 14:25, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. On the face of it , the article is so promotional that in combination with the dubious notability there seems no basis for keeping it. DGG ( talk ) 03:06, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Do Not Delete Just needs some minor adjustments such as family background and history that led to financial success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:8600:B400:EC20:5E3A:6CAD:CE6 (talk) 03:33, 23 December 2015 (UTC) 2605:E000:8600:B400:EC20:5E3A:6CAD:CE6 (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and AFD. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 10:59, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Do Not Delete It seems like someone is quite hostile to her on wikipedia which is a good thing. Since most major media in China already recognized her it already means she has a name there. it does not really matter where her accomplishments are. Besides, no one has right to make Oceann Hai take responsibility for any wikipedia editting. It could be her enemies anyway. I had the same experience before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhangqi12345 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC) — Zhangqi12345 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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