Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oregon (fictional ship)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to The Oregon Files. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oregon (fictional ship)

Fictional topic lacking reliable real-world sources to establish notability. Per WP:FICT, WP:NB#Derivative_articles. tedder (talk) 14:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- tedder (talk) 14:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or even CSD for lack of context. --EEMIV (talk) 14:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy was declined (see page history), and prod was removed. That's why it's in AFD now. tedder (talk) 14:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for lack of content. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 15:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
pause debate, or keep/merge the page was started 2 days ago; the primary editor working on it has stated their intent to add more & improve the material. it's not very good right now, but it won't kill us to give him more than 2 days to create the article. the editor is literally brand new on wikipedia, & their first 3 interactions with more experienced editors have been: CSD (failed to pass csd), PROD, & now AFD. i'd like to cite the relevant WP about don't bite the new users. what about making a userpage for them to keep it on, while they work? Lx 121 (talk) 15:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Userifying would be a great idea. tedder (talk) 15:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I feel for the editor too, but even if the article was perfectly written it should be deleted and a new article written about the book series the fictional ship appears in. In that article the ship can be described as much as needed. Steve Dufour (talk) 16:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The ship had many notable characteristics and is a crucial part of the novels. These books are successful enough so that a significant fictional element found in multiple books in the series, is notable. Dream Focus 19:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In that case the information on the ship has to be in the article on the novel series. No need for it to have its own article. Steve Dufour (talk) 01:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- Notability is not inherited, it must be independently established per topic, and this one fails on its own. DreamGuy (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Please give me a chane to fix up this page and i hope i won't disappoint you (Gloryify (talk) 03:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Even if this article is deleted you are still welcome to edit the other articles on the series.Steve Dufour (talk) 16:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge The information can easily fit in the main article. I suggest the author do this instead of trying to keep it as a separate article, it will be more likely to be productive. DGG (talk) 03:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:FICT and WP:NB#Derivative_articles ... The information would fit better at The Oregon Files#The Oregon. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Merge per Barek above. Seems like a textbook case of what not to do, per WP:NB#Derivative_articles - Special-T (talk) 19:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with The Oregon Files. Actually, it pretty much is already merged with that article, so I'm not sure why this exists in the first place... Zivlok (talk) 19:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.